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03-09-2008, 7:30 AM pastorronosborne Joined on 03-03-2008 miramichi, nb, Canada Posts 4 prayer works when?????? I believe prayer works when we pray according to HIS will not ours, it may be our will that EVERYONE lives forever on earth, but it is GOD's will that EVERYONE lives everlasting (in heaven), but not everyone is going to heaven (yes, some will goto hell) does not mean God did not answer prayer, His answer is yes and AMEN to those who line up to HIS ways Rev. Ron Osborne JESUS is LORD and coming    Report

08-24-2008, 6:34 PM Norrbom7 Joined on 01-23-2007 Posts 1 Re: prayer works when?????? I believe you are right in that we must line up with God's will not ours. The Lord works in mysterious ways, his ways are not our ways. Everything works together for Good to those who love the Lord. It is getting rid of our selfish ways and lining them up with the Lord.    Report

09-19-2008, 6:40 PM RaChNeeDsCeRtaiNTy Joined on 09-16-2008 Illinois, United States Posts 1 Re: prayer works when?????? What is God's will that we must line up to? And why cant Jesus or God do things for us to let us know he's real? For example, this is real, I losted my keys this week, i really need them, not only b/c the house key were on them but my USB drive was on it too. my USB has a lot of school work on there. i think if God wants me to keep the faith, follow his will and worship Him, He could have returned my keys to me. i know i lost them in the nieghborhood and i searched for them. i hate feeling like i was testing Him, but i still need a strong comfirmation that he exist. Bottom line, I want to believe in Him again; fully, wholehearted u know, the whole nine if believing in Him means a better life. but when i ask him and even made a promise to Him if He'll return my keys i will do so, i didnt find them. so how am i suppose to keep my faith and continue to pray when things i really need He DOES NOT Grant. I guess it dont take that much to make me happy thats y i used this ex. i know there are more important things i need, but i only ask for little at a time b/c i know im not perfect or probably dont deserve nothing from Him, but now, it seems like i dont get anything.    Report

09-20-2008, 10:20 AM BeenThere Joined on 09-20-2008 Missouri, United States Posts 1 Re: prayer works when?????? Hey RaChNeeDsCeRtaiNTy, I read your post today and felt compelled to sign  up just so I can reply. Actually I have never been on this site before, I just stumbled on it surfing the net coz I couldn’t sleep.  I’m not a counselor, and not attending any church right now. I’m just someone who’s been where you are. I gathered from reading your post that at one point or another you did believe in Him, fully, wholeheartedly. I was there, and the beauty of it is, He’s still there. The problem is that most Christians today are looking for what God can do for them. The tendency towards selfishness, which exists in every one of us, often drowns the voice of the Holy Spirit saying I need a relationship with you first. That is Gods greatest desire, is to have a relationship with you. And he does not need to prove anymore that he exists or that he loves you than what He has already done. Roman chapter 1 says we have no excuse, the proof is there. Our problem is sin and unbelief. Let me share with you the abc’s of the gospel which will give you an awesome relationship with God. The bible calls this the simplicity of the gospel. God had a plan to restore relationship with us. That plan was sending Jesus to the cross to pay the price owed to God for our sins. I come along and find out that I’m a sinner. I hear from God that I need to get saved and that there is a savior.  I express faithor belief  in God’s redemption plan-Christ and him crucified. God, waiting that expression of faith  then sends his grace.  It’s a system of Faith and Grace. You place your faith in Gods redemption plan, God seeing that, sends Grace. You believe, God sends Grace. What does Grace do? In the Salvation experience it regenerates you, writes your name in the lambs book of life, wipes out all the past charges, causes you to become a new creation in Christ Jesus; the Holy spirit takes up residence within you, starts teaching and guiding you in what is right and wrong and cleansing you of all filthiness of flesh and spirit. All this and you haven’t done anything, except BELIEVE in what Christ did for you. Ok, so that covers salvation, but how do I live this Christian life which, to be honest, sometimes seems too hard? Colossians 2:6 As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord so walk ye in Him. It doesn’t get simpler than that. In the same manner as you came into relationship with God, live out your Christian experience. How did we come into relationship with God? We placed our faith in his redemption plan, Christ and him crucified, and God sent his grace to change us. As long as your object of faith is Christ and him crucified, and not what you do, God will continue to send his grace and do the work himself. Don’t worry about changing yourself, that’s his job. He just wants you to keep your faith on the plan.  And don’t worry about failure, just repent, maintain your object of faith and let him work on you. I promise you that you’ll start seeing yourself doing things that are so hard to do, like praying, reading the bible, etc. not because you want God to do something, but because God is already doing something. You’ll start seeing the confirmation you’re looking for. God bless.  Eph 2:8, Col 2:6, Eph 2:10, Phil 2:13,    Report

10-01-2008, 2:31 PM Bible Heroes Ministry Joined on 09-17-2008 Texas, United States Posts 6 You have got to be kidding me...Prayer Warrior - Bible Heroes Ministry I am absolutely amazed by these comments. Absolutely. Does Prayer work? You have got to be kidding me. Let me tell you something false teachers, false prophets and everything in between. Quit reading the bible with a CARNAL mind. You are to worship the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Creator of Heaven and Earth, God of Israel with all your mind, body, spirit and soul. EVERYTHING YOU HAVE. Quit playing him for what you can get. 2 Peter 2:20 -21. Let me tell you something GOD owes YOU NOTHING!! And every single one of us OWES him EVERYTHING!!! Yeshua is the ultimate intercessor, did he go off and pray to the Lord, yes scripture has said, everyone in the Bible Old Testament New Testament prayed and saught the face of the Lord. Did miracles happen? YES. But the kind of prayers mainstream Christanese pray do NOT. There is a reason for that. Far too much for me to have to type. Why did the disciples ask Jesus to teach them to pray? BECAUSE when Yeshua prayed THINGS HAPPENED!! When the Men and Women of God, the ones who walk and talk in truth and spirit. trust me pew warmers, things happen!!!!! Strongholds are broken, the sick are healed, the lame walk, body parts and reformed, tumors disappear. and it goes on and on and on....You need to be desparate and hungry for the Lord, turn from your evil desires and wicked ways, then and only then may you see his face.....Now, quit playing church and start being the CHURCH....    Report

10-12-2008, 4:29 PM tiffkathryn Joined on 10-12-2008 Posts 3 Re: You have got to be kidding me...Prayer Warrior - Bible Heroes Ministry  Bible Heroes Ministry wrote: I am absolutely amazed by these comments. Absolutely. Does Prayer work? You have got to be kidding me. Let me tell you something false teachers, false prophets and everything in between. Quit reading the bible with a CARNAL mind. You are to worship the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Creator of Heaven and Earth, God of Israel with all your mind, body, spirit and soul. EVERYTHING YOU HAVE. Quit playing him for what you can get. 2 Peter 2:20 -21. Let me tell you something GOD owes YOU NOTHING!! And every single one of us OWES him EVERYTHING!!! Yeshua is the ultimate intercessor, did he go off and pray to the Lord, yes scripture has said, everyone in the Bible Old Testament New Testament prayed and saught the face of the Lord. Did miracles happen? YES. But the kind of prayers mainstream Christanese pray do NOT. There is a reason for that. Far too much for me to have to type. Why did the disciples ask Jesus to teach them to pray? BECAUSE when Yeshua prayed THINGS HAPPENED!! When the Men and Women of God, the ones who walk and talk in truth and spirit. trust me pew warmers, things happen!!!!! Strongholds are broken, the sick are healed, the lame walk, body parts and reformed, tumors disappear. and it goes on and on and on....You need to be desparate and hungry for the Lord, turn from your evil desires and wicked ways, then and only then may you see his face.....Now, quit playing church and start being the CHURCH....   With all do respect...I'm nost sure the context of your response.  I have read nothing above where anyone states that God owes something, except for the questioning from someone who does not fully believe and does not have conplete Faith in Christ as of yet.  The response from the one before this one was much more welcoming and UNDERSTANDABLE for a non-believer.  Why approach one who doubts with pointed finger and anger?  That is how non-believers are scared away from Christians today.  Our job as Christians is to open the door with a smile on our faces, love in our hearts, Bible in hand, ready to accept anyone and everyone so we can TEACH them and GIVE them the answers they are looking for.  Please consider this when replying to anyone who has doubt.  You may have the right intention and maybe your voice gives the correct tone, but your fingers do the opposite.     Report

02-03-2009, 12:26 PM anglenet Joined on 02-03-2009 Indiana, United States Posts 3 Re: You have got to be kidding me...Prayer Warrior - Bible Heroes Ministry I think that your message was great how you first acknowleged the postive point of the message, and then gave constructive critisim(SP). That is an awsome way to correct your brother in love. OFten times we're so caught up in or emotions and what effects us that we don't take time out be SERVANTS. Great job on being a good servant, you have showed how this comment was not about you.    Report

02-03-2009, 12:42 PM anglenet Joined on 02-03-2009 Indiana, United States Posts 3 Re: prayer works when?????? (SP) Pray does work when there is faith. When times come in your life that causes everythins else to come to a hault, ask yourself some questions. One question to ask yourself would be"What is God trying to get my attention about". Take some time out to not focus on the problem at hand, but other points in your life. The way you have treated other lately, something you said or should have done, maybe a prayer request. There are other questions to assit us to moving to another level in understanding, though t is up to us to recognize our learning styles and push ourselves. Lastly, if the erge comes to question "why me".My answer would be:why not you. What makes you so extraordanory that God should not push you to think futher, go further, search him further.    Report

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