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   01-30-2007, 6:20 PM
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Divorce and Remarriage
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Where in the scriptures is there forgiveness for divorce and remarriage? I have not seen anywhere where it is written that you are excused for any reason to remarry after divorce. in fact i read that in the old testiment that once the people were aware of the sin they out all the wifes away they didn't continue in the sin, but today even pastors are remarried. This is confussing to me are they continuing in sin and allowing grace to abound? i would like to hear from someone about this someone who is in search of the truth please not someone wanting to justify themselves or the leaders that are in a second marriage with the first partner still alive.
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   01-30-2007, 7:44 PM
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david was married to more than one person and he was a man after Gods own heart. Jesus told the woman at the well that was with her 5th husband to go and sin no more. First John 1:9 says if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to clense us from all unrighteousness. The key words are faithfull and just to forgive us from ALL unrighteousness. There is forgiveness for all sin. including divorce and remarriage. The key is not to sin anymore. stay with your spouse and seek God in all actions. The bible speaks about reconcilation where possible. if its not possible there is nothing that can be done by human help. only God can reconcile a marriage that has ended.

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   01-31-2007, 5:11 PM
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You can separarte but in the word the only dissolvement of marriage is death. So if you remarry this is the sin.1Cor. 7:39 So if one remarries and comes to the knowledge of his actions and remains married to the second wife or husband isn't this continuing in sin? or to say a continuous state of adultery. During Ezra's revival the poeple made a covenant with God and put away all the wives Ezra 10:3 today this will come up against great opposition. This would be a hard pill to swallow Matt 10:37-39 But not impossible to live through.
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   01-31-2007, 8:13 PM
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that is not true according to the new testament. the fornication clause is found to be one reason to divorce and remarry. i agree that Gods plan is one man and one women for life. but read a little closer and you will find that the divorce and remarriage dilemma can best be approached based on the priciple in Acts 15:8-11 which states And God which knoweth the hearts bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us. And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore, why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the diciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Caution must be exercised so as not require of people something that they are unable to do, lest we put a yoke of bondage around their neck. This must be left up to Gods sovereignty. In the end it must be left up to the sovereignty of God.
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   02-03-2007, 7:00 AM
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JESUS CHRIST the AUTHOUR and FINNISHER of our FAITH did make this discussion very clear. He said that the only circumstance divorce could be tolerated is on basis of adultery. He further says that if a man puts away his wife execpt for adultery the man has made that woman to commit adultery if another man marry that woman. In that case the man that put away his wife execept for reason of adultery has made that woman adulterous therefore is responsible for the sin of that woman. However if the woman was caught by the husband with another man commiting adultery then the husband is liberty to divorce her. JESUS CHRIST went further to make himself clear by saying additionally that if a man divorces his wife on the basis of adultery that man should remain unmarried until the woman he divorced is dead. However the scripture went further to say if at the time of divorce, any of the couple or both are unbelievers and the unbeliever wishes to go out of the marriage the believer among them should make attempts to reconcile but if reconcilation is quite difficult then the believer among them is at liberty to let the unbeliever go. If then this happens the believer should not remarry untill the other partner dies. The Bible went furthe to say that should the divorce and remarriage taken place when both were unbelieves then the one that has remarried should then confess and also ask for forgiveness and he or she would be forgiven and a new lease of life given to him or her. So it then depends on what stage the remarrying took place. Was at the time of their unbelief or after the person has known Christ. If it is after knwoing Christ then that sin is inexecusable.
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   02-03-2007, 5:50 PM
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The exception is the word fornication. not adultery. they are two different meanings. fornication has a much broader sense of meaning. the word comes from the greek meaning porneia. it is used to define prostitution, unchastity, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse. then there many lawfull reasons for divorce. know the scripture greek and hebrew. it will help when faced with a topic such as this. The women in the day of Jesus could not put away her husband by law but the Jewish man could put his wife away for anything by law. Jesus was touching on this in all of his teaching on this subject. Matthew says except for fornication not adultery. show love and try not to place that yoke around your brother or sisters neck.
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   02-25-2007, 7:26 PM
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thank you for this and i agree there are some who for what ever reasons want to believe they can remarry because of 1cornithians 7:13-15 but this gives christians the right to be free in the case of an unbelieveing spouse. this scripture gave no permission to remarry just to be free of the relationship with the unbeliveing spouse.
also as i studied matthew henry states that in that time the cornithians had a group of unbelievers who would marry and desert the women and back then in that time women depended on marriage as way to "make it in the world" so to speak but today women can survive without being married. thank you for your input and time
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   02-25-2007, 7:34 PM
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i am hearing what you are saying but it just don't line up with what i have been studying. this i personal for me and i have been dividing this word and as it shows me i cannot remarry until my husband of my youth is dead. this is my cross to take up daily and i can deal with that i would rather be told in the day of judgement i could have been remarried than to be told i shouldn't have. and my brother to know i cannot remarry is not a yoke around my neck it is all about the flesh and we all know in order to walk this walk it must be subjected and our hearts totally sold out thank you for your time and input.
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   02-25-2007, 7:37 PM
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this is true. in matthew it does say that the spouse can remarry if the reason for divorce was fornication. I do agree with you in corinithians but in matthew Jesus said except for fornication no one should put away his wife and marry another. so in the case of fornication you can divorce and remarry. being that most christians view fornication as being many different sexual acts out side of marriage than there are many reasons. i dont think we are disagreeing on this subject. the bible teaches on man one women for life. but there is the fornication clause in matthew.
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   02-26-2007, 5:18 PM
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God forgives every kind of sin except "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit". Why does it seem like the focus of Christians is predominently on what the word commands us not to do? The majority of Christ's message to us, and quite honestly the area we fail so miserably at, is what we as Christians are commanded to DO.Love God and Love others.
Man looks on the outward, but God looks on the heart. Maybe we wouldn't need to seek an answer about the law of God, if we would as fervently seek the Love of God. Divorce tears families apart. And anything not done in love... means nothing.So living miserably in a bad marriage or single, lonely, and burning with passion is not what God is looking for from us.
Freedom is not found in divorce.We may find liberty through the things we're running from. The biggest caution to a person already divorced and seeking re-marriage...it must be unconditional love. "Just as Christ loves us and so gave up His life for us... so a husband is to do" for His marriage to work. A wife also, an example of the church, must submit herself to her husband's authority as he is the spiritual head of the their family. Unless we truly understand the heart of a marriage,being submitted to one another and totally committed to seeking Christ, there is no point in debating laws and doctrine.
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   06-25-2007, 9:12 AM
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This is a painful subject to me because I have seen so many wonderful people leap out of a frying pan and into the fire. The determination, the DEMAND, 'I WILL live happily ever after and I HAVE to be married to do that.' is a dangerous trap. Marry in haste, repent at your leisure. I am so glad to see that you are making sure that you have ALL the info you need to make an excellent decision. Wonderful! I support your search. Find it out and then tell others...
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   09-02-2007, 9:30 PM
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I've had the opportunity to attend several weddings and the minister always say the same thing and that is "what God put together let no man put asunder". If the marriage is of God, then there would never be a divorce.
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   09-20-2007, 4:20 PM
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Matt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matt 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Notice "shall marry" in the above gives light to the fact that you can remarry if your spouse fornicated on you and you divorce him or her.

Fornication is sex without being married to your partner.

Adultery is against the person you are married to when you fornicate.

You can remarry if your spouse fornicates on you. It is your choice.

You can forgive and stay married, or you can forgive and divorce the choice is yours.

In the old testament you did not have to make a choice of remarrying because the offenders were both stoned to death.
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   09-20-2007, 5:31 PM
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ezra 10:1-5

They had to put away strange wives.

They were only to marry in there jewish faith that still holds true today.

We cannot be unequally yoked with an unbeliever.

You can marry whomsoever ye will only in the lord.

This was not about fornication and adultery.

God told them not to marry their sons and daughters outside the jewish faith and they disobeyed these were strange wives.

To clear themselves with God they had to put them away.
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   10-10-2007, 7:54 PM
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Marriage is what you make it..! It requires alot of work and responsibility, its just more than a spouse and taken on another man's name. Marriage is a symbol of covenant and you can only draw from what you deposit into your marital relationship with your spouse. Honestly, I don't believe that Father God intended for his beloved to continue within a marital covenant where there has been manifestations of physical, mental, or verbal abuse which only seeks to destroy what is purposed to honor and glorify him. It is very sad and dishardening concerning marriages today. We need to get back to the Father's original pattern and that is by way of the "Cross Of Christ"! you can't have a covenant with yourself it must be established between two or more parties involved and it requires death, the word covenant really means to "cut". Husband means or implies "loving ruler"; wife means suitable help meet, but how many men do you personally know that models the example of a loving ruler which means to rule his house with (LOVE). Love doesnt demand its own way, nor does it have any restraints or strings attached to it. A husband is required to rule his house with love and give his life as Christ did for his bride the Church, likewise the wife is to submit herself to her loving ruler as unto her Lord. We all have our areas of struggle but we must be willing to bring it all to the foot of the Cross of Christ, Apostle Paul made this very clear to his apostolic son Timothy that in the last days which we are currently living in that men would become lovers of themselves which implies selfishness, self-centered, its all about me, myself, and I. Covenant breakers which implies you can't believe or honor a word that comes out of their mouths, they disregard and resist all forms of authority which goes over into government, home, marriage, etc. Divorce is another form of a covenant breaking spirit. Everyone is entitled to form their own opinion but that doesnt imply that its right. I believe that marriages should be respected and honored today like never before because of what it represents. When you surround yourself with people who has been hurt, bitter, and critical or just experienced a painful divorce you should get as far away from them as possible, bad company corrupts good manners, you are what table you eat from, what you associate yourself with is a prophecy of what you'll become. If you intend to have a successful and fruitful marriage you need to surround yourself with people who are what you are looking for and they bare the fruit of it, allowing someone and not anyone speak into your marital relationship, that means prayer partners, co-workers, etc other than your leadership. prayerfully i shared more than a mouth full with you and it would be helpful regarding your subject there are very little men today who honesty had a godly example or physical model of a what a godly husband should be like within his marital relationship, like myself I look to the perfect and upright example and pattern of our Lord Jesus Christ as to his Bride, and the physical model of my leadership , and those who currently possess the fruits of what I'm looking for.
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