Comments:

My thoughts are Pastor should be granted the money because of his faithfulness in the ministry. The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the rightouesness!!!

Much love,

Aariom Jene Pope Stembridge

posted by Aariom Jene Pope Stembridge  @ Monday, December 08, 2008

I hope the case is going well for Dr. Price

posted by raystem  @ Friday, December 05, 2008

I am absolutely glad that Dr. Price stood up to the media and sued them. People who state that Pastors live lavishly obviously do not know all that people who live ministry lives impart into God's people and how much it takes to carry such a burden. With every blessing there are burdens and some burdens are manageable and some burdens are fightable and some burdens are able to be removed. This is a burden that not only should be removed but if it takes force to make a point the Bible states that we are to take it back by force. An apology is not enough because that is just a slap on the hand that will cause a re-visit to do it again maybe another way. How dare they who suggest that Dr. Price isn't following what he teaches, or even possibly suggest that because he is a preacher he must be passive-- he is a son of the most high God and as a fellow sister in Christ to God be the Glory! Where do we get this mentality from, he should do nothing. It is his responsibility to do what the laws of the land offer us as American Law abiding citizens. God did not raise us as children of passivity but children who have Power and Authority to manage the things He has given to us.

Yes I too am in ministry and I agree with Dr. Price. His work speaks for itself and I am sure that God will get the glory out of the world trying to put false words on such an annointed man of God.

posted by Tina Scott  @ Friday, May 30, 2008

I feel Price should use stand by his own words and drop the law suit. ABC apologized, they said they were sorry and they should be forgiven. Isn't that what Price teaches God's congregation? It must be some truth to it. Let it go if there is no truth to the matter God will take care of ABC. Don't you have faith in God to fight this battle for you?

I believe that the Pastors of today do live to lavish. They don't even live in the community that their churches are in and that's because they don't care about the community were their churches are. The hop in the bently's, mercedes, or jaguars on Sunday and go straight to their mansion on the other side of town. Poll the congregations and see how me congrants live like the Pastors. There are Pastors you can't even get an appointment with if you don't pay or if your'e not a celebrity. The truth hurts and that's why headlines read "Price Sues ABC."

I wonder what Jesus would do? We know for a fact according to the Bible Jesus could have sued for defamation but turned the other cheek. Turn the other cheek Price! I thouhgt Christiams were not suppose to SUE!

posted by vetnchrist  @ Monday, September 10, 2007

it is realy heated in this room. i am very glad to see people sticking up for thier leaders but let's make sure in our defence of them we represent them well. I for one am Glad Dr. Price stood up and made 20/20 accountable for thier actions although i don't share Dr. prices views on all things i applaud him for his courage in saying enough is enough gone are the days when we must sit idlely by and allow unsaved men or women tarnish the reputation of the church. Isn't it funny that we say we are Gods instruments in the earth and he uses us to carry out his will but when it comes to standing up for ourselves and our God we say he will handle it.

posted by eddie486us  @ Saturday, August 25, 2007

Boy this world is surely coming to an end! God is not the author of confusion and Jesus was lied on, talked about and persecuted! Let us take the persecution and go on this walk and be obedient...not wasting God's time to deal with man who wants to see us in courts, trials over a few dollars that can be made to finance the spreading of the Gospel...COME ON SAINTS...LETS US DO OUR JOB AND WALK LIKE CHRIST DID ON EARTH!

posted by tammieharold@yahoo.com  @ Monday, August 20, 2007

I apologize if I offended anyone. Peace

posted by Mischele  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

Beloved,
I am so glad and humbled that God so loved a wretch like me, that he put together a plan for my salvation by giving His only begotten Son to suffer, bleed and die for me! I am glad to understand that the very lynch-pin upon which that plan rests is forgiveness! To that end I ask for forgiveness for those whom I have offended! This is the last message I will place on this blog so let me be very clear! Those of us who call ourselves ministers, preachers, pastors, teachers, and evangelists who do not understand the primacy of forgiveness in the message of the Gospel, and are not displaying it in our own lives because of its primacy, we are only stubling-blocks to others, and will be held accountable for it! It is so important to the Gospel, and that is why I have tried to consistently preach it! I pray that you will all understand this, and learn to be more forgiveing in your lives! Try to treat each other with more kindness, and forgive me if my level of understanding is not yours! God bless you!
Love and prayers,
Minister J
P.S. If you wish to contact me, my email address can be found in my personal info on this site!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

Dear readers,
There you have it! That is why the Church is in so much trouble today! I'm Sure Mischele thinks of herself as Christian. I invite you all to read throught this blog, search your heart and the scripture, and think about who is displaying Christian character here. I have addressed people respectfully. I have ended my messages with blessings. I have consistently referred to the core value of Christianity. I have offered apologies. My biggest crime seems to be that I dared to disagree with someone! Can't we disagree without being disagreeable? If I understand that Christianity is about forgiveness, just what is it I am clueless about? Please please Mischele, answer that one question and I will drop the subject. If you do not believe that Christianity is about forgiveness, what is it about then? If I am so clueless, isn't it your job as a Christian to clue me in? Are you so sanctimonious that you can just write someone off just because they do not agree with you? Who is acting more Christian, the one who has offered an apology (without offense) or the one who is mean-spirited and dismissive? God Help you!
Really praying for you,
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

Valerie ignore him. He is clueless.

posted by Mischele  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

Ms. Bloom,
I do hope and pray that you were kidding about what you believe Pastor Price's response might be to my request. I do intend to contact him personally, and this blog will certainly be one of the topics of discussion. If you would kindly provide me with some contact info, I would appreciate it! I will also certainly discuss the fact that some people do not seem to understand that the Gospel message is about forgiveness, atonement and restoration, and that when a humble messenger offered these as a way to address conflict, he was castigated, character assasinated, mis-quoted, and slandered by some who claim to be Dr. Price's followers! There is nothing Christian about your attitude madam; from the way you addressed me in the familiar, to the way you simply refuse to acknowledge that I have only written about Dr. Price in respectful and honorable terms! If you feel justified in speaking to a child of God in such disrespectful tones, I feel sorry for you, cause you just don't get it! At least ABC had the class to admit when they were wrong, and apologized to Dr. Price! I am not asking for an apology. I pray only that you would consider all this, and determine to be kinder in your dealings with people!
God Bless you,
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

Dear Mischele,
It is sad that you cannot refrain from personal attacks! I invited you to look through all of my comments and show me where I have either attacked or denigrated or spoken disrespectfully of Dr. Price, and you apparently did not! So why the personal attacks on me? And believe me, I am less worried about my feelings, than about your need to lash out! And for what? Because I dare to have an opinion different from Dr. Price's? This forum and this discussion was determined by the article printed above! Are you saying that the oly ones who have a right to comment on it must be in agreement with Dr. Price? And if they are not, they are somehow cowards, Biblically uninformed, and spirituually questionable? My dear, I am fine with the Holy Spirit! I am pleased the ministry He has given me! And, I am not so fragile that personal attacks devastate me! I'm really concerned about you and your need to be mean spirited! I'm not sure what has caused you to lash out so, but I will be praying for you! I hope you will accept my apologies for whatever it was that I did that has upset you so!
God Bless,
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

Jonathan, there is no need for me to tell Dr. Price anything (why do you keep singling yourself out?) Besides, here's what he'd probably say ... (I don't give a care!).
Also, I unintenionally forgot to ask (all). Has anyone done any research ABOUT this particular issue? Say the person I'd mentioned yesterday --- this Ole Anthony? Since talking is the name of the game here ... Now that's someone that EVERYONE should be keenly aware of. This guy (in the name of Christ) is out to destroy anyone that does not reflect his (ever changing) morals. He is well known as a classic cult leader. And believe me, if you are even slightly (public) in ministry, he WILL (eventually) attempt to come after you to. He is best known for the Robert Tilton (and some other folks) who I'd not heard of (being sent to federal prison) fiascos. The networks and this man have a long-strong relationship. This is the kind of stuff that needs to be addressed in the body. This goes far beyond unforgiveness! Hey, unforgiveness and disgraceful practices are only two of his touted attributes. Just so you'll know, he hates any believer that is truly a believer. However, I am ever reminded, we wrestle not against flesh and blood ...

Talk is cheap, action is invaluable.

posted by speakerlistens@yahoo.com  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

One thing about offence (in whatever form or forum it may come), you have to "take it". As always, my hands are in my pockets. THE END!

posted by speakerlistens@yahoo.com  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

The bible says that the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives in us. And He (the Holy Spirit) is our Helper. We don't need so called Christians on forums like this sowing seeds of doubt and unbelief to babes who are trying to make a decision for Christ. Like I said in previous comments if ANYONE has a problem with Dr. Price and what he is doing why don't you man up and go to him and discuss with him instead of cowardly getting on these forums and talking behind his back. He probably does not read this, but people like me (who love and respect him) do. And if the comments were complimentary then we would not be having this discussion; but obviously some of the comments sounded deragatory in tone and context which prompted these responses. I quoted scripture and you are right I don't know you but obviously the Holy Spirit does. So if the scriptures that I wrote offended in any way, check out your heart. If it does not apply to you then it should not bother you, one way or the other. Read Matthew 7 all the way through. And the rest is a moot point. Period the end.

posted by Mischele  @ Friday, August 10, 2007

To all who has and will visit this forum, I repent to God and apologize for using the term pimp and hustler to refer to men and women of God. If I have offended anyone in this forum please find it in your heart to forgive me as God has already done.

Shonda
God Bless

posted by shondab  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Min J

Thank for those kind words of love and forgivness. Again let me not be missunderstood, I am calling for change. And to get people of God to think alittle bit more adbout thing going on around them. I may have came off a little radical earlier but that is what I see. We need to start at home and hold our leaders who are not doing the right thing accountable first. My opinion remains the same, ABC, wether wrong or right opened a forum for discussion about what is happening in the church, and I'm glad they did it.

If I offended anyone in this forum, right now, I repent to God and apologize.

Shonda

posted by shondab  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Dear Shondab,
I hope and pray that you are no insinuating that Dr. Price is a hustler! If you do not have the evidence to support that, you are as bad as ABC! (worse because you are supposed to be a Christian). If you do have evidence, then I suggest that you take it up directly with Dr. Price! In any case, I would not suggest using a forum like this to vent! You do not know what is in any man's heart any more than do I or anyone else! I pray that you will calm your spirit, and that whoever you believe has dissappointed you in the ministry you will find the courage to pray for them, not hate them, and forgive them! Remember "All fall short!...) All includes you, and in definitly includes me! Let's remember to keep each other in prayer?
God Loves You, and So Do I!
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

O.K. Now what? Still the facts remain the same that there are still leaders out there who are hustling the body of Christ. When I was a babe in Christ, they were hustlin and now that I am seasoned in Christ they are still hustlin they even hustlin over seas and in third world countries. NOW WHAT! Don't just talk about it, be about it. Lets get together and start an organization to stop this Church hustlin.
We need to stop talkin, tearin each other down, get off our knees and start doin something. Quoting scripture and gettin all hot headed ain't doin nothin to bring change. I know scripture and the hustlers do too. Now what!


My last comment on this site must have been too much for Streaming Faith and others to take, so it was not allowed to stay on this blog.

Stop hiding, we have to deal with this.

posted by shondab  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Ms. Bloom,

Please, since you are as you say a member of Dr. Price's church, please take my comments to the Pastor and show them to him! If he feels in any way that I have offended him, or was un-theological, or proffered un-sound doctrine, or was in any way the slightest was off-base, you let me know and I will apologize publicly! I do not believe that in any of my writings I have been mean-spirited, or doctrinally unsound! I just want you to answer me one question; If the Gospel is not about forgiveness, then what is it about? If it is about forgiveness, then shouldn't we be preaching, teaching, and demonstrating it? If the Gospel is about forgiveness, (and that is what I have been consistently writing about) then why are you so upset with me? I'm truly sorry that you are, for I would not want to hurt anyone's feelings for any reason. I have tried to be kind, but I guess some think that if one is not in total agreement with them, then it is okay to attack them viciously, even mis-quoting and mis-characterizing them! It is a shame that we have come to that!
God bless you!
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

I am truly beginning to understand how Pastor Price must feel! Mischele, you have taken to personal attack which are unfounded, and very close to slanderous! You know absolutely nothing about me except what I have written, and I have not attacked Dr. Price, nor have I any any way denograted him! You have very much slapped me on the cheek, and mis-characterized my thoughts! So, should I sue you? Like most of the things Christ has ordered us to do, not returning a slap is very difficult in the natural. And the truth is, I do not know for certain how I would react! I would hope that I would be very Christ-like, and forgive and turn the other cheek! One never knows for sure until they have been there! I would also hope that I would have the advice and counsel of some loving and caring persons should I not react in a Christ-like manner! In that light, I choose to forgive you for your unfounded personal attacks, and invite you to find anywhere on this blog where I have attacked or maligned Dr. Price. I have only referenced him with the respect his title and office deserves. If you can find where I have done otherwise, then I apologize. If not, you owe me one! Again I say that the Word is my model, not anyone or anything else! If that is offensive, then you have a problem with the Word, not me!
God bless

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Mischele, I am so with you about this. I am (embarissingly) disappointed by the comments, (written) anger and resentment I keep seeing on this website about my Pastor. Yes, I am a member. How awful it is to read folks who identify themselves with Christ (write) in such a way. My God, why is there such a discussion about something that so many seem to be misinformed about? Some say, oh, it's a topic of discussion that should be discussed; others say, it's not about him (Dr. Price). Why then aren't you talking about yourself is my thought? I mean come on now! Then I keep reading scripture references that are so non-applicable. I more now than ever understand what the Father God (and Dr. Price) mean when they express to us to RIGHTLY divide the word of truth. My Lord, the only reason there is a lawsuit is because the person behind this (Ole Anthony) is a demagog used by Satan to continue to manipulate through the "air". Remember, Satan is the prince of the air. Please, everyone check out our website http://www.eifm.org. It gives much room for understanding, clarity and a great starting place for research. Doesn't the Word say, since the days of John the Baptist, heaven suffereth violence. And the violent take it by force. Finally, I have to say, I am very wealthy spiritually, financially, emotionally and socially. Do know (nay sayers) it is ALL because of being under the (teaching) annointing of the Father God on Dr. Price. NO, it did not happen overnight; but nonetheless, the Word of God works if you work it! (and ONLY when you work it). Grace and peace everyone. Grace and peace.

posted by speakerlistens@yahoo.com  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

shondab, I personally don't know any pastors who are pimps, etc. and if you do and God has given you the assignment to fix what you feel is corruption in the body of Christ, than why don't you go to them directly and confront them instead of making those types of comments on forums where there may be babes in Christ or someone trying to make a decision for Christ that could be mis-directed by these types of blanket comments/statements? And no one knows specifically who you are referring to. It is a moot point.

I recall ministering salvation to a young lady and she told me (at first) "oh I don't want to be a Christian" I asked why. She said have you ever heard them over the radio; they can't agree on anything.

I would not want to be in their shoes having to give an account for those words. She did accept Christ and started serving God, etc but soon slipped back into what she was doing before. Perhaps it was the seeds of doubt and unbelief that had been sowed when she was listening to the Christian radio station. If you have a problem with a paster, etc go to them and let them know your concerns, because you don't know who is reading.

Matthew 18:6:But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

posted by Mischele  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

And lastly regarding forgiving and turning the other cheek. If someone walks up to you and smacks you in the mouth. You are telling all of these readers that you would stand there and ask them to hit you on the other side of the face. Or if someone was being abused by a parent or spouse; you would recommend to them to stay there and take it or turn the other cheek? No one in their right mind believes that. Because that would not be anyones re-action. So perhaps some have taken that scripture out of context - you think?

posted by Mischele  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Continued - "HE WHO IS NOT WITH ME IS AGAINST ME, AND HE WHO DOES NOT GATHER SCATTERS. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Make A TREE GOOD AND ITS FRUIT WILL BE GOOD OR MAKE A TREE BAD AND ITS FRUIT WILL BE BAD, FOR A TREE IS RECOGNIZED BY ITS FRUIT. You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? FOR OUT OF THE OVERFLOW OF THE HEART THE MOUTH SPEAKS. THE GOOD MAN BRINGS GOOD THINGS OUT OF THE GOOD STORED UP IN HIM AND THE EVIL MAN BRINGS EVIL THINGS OUT OF THE EVIL STORED UP IN HIM. BUT I TELL YOU THAT MEN WILL GIVE ACCOUNT ON THAT DAY ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT FOR EVERY CARELESS WORD THAT THEY HAVE SPOKEN for by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.

God is love; not hate jealousy, strife and division. Let's love one another and true imitators of God not only in word but in word and deed; like the Word instructs us to do.


posted by Mischele  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Min J, You say you are following Jesus? The bible says that if you cannot show love to a fellow man who you have seen how can you say that you love God who you have not seen. Jesus was kind, compassionate people loved Him. His name is great in the earth. Is yours? He went around doing good. A child should have characteristics like their father. Are you reflecting your Father in heaven, getting on forums like this and criticizing Dr.Price and trying to mask it as care/compassion? Have you made the impact in the earth as Dr. Price has? Have you started countless number or churches/ministries spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ over the earth? Or getting on forums downing men/women who have/are? Jesus said to love one another. If you have a problem with Dr. Price or any other minister, pastor, teacher, poacher, evangelist, etc, why don't you address him face-to-face man-to-man instead of getting on forums like this and causing havoc/division in the body? Since you are following Jesus, is that like Jesus? You can say what you want, but it looks like jealousy to me. If you say you don't have jealousy in your heart, than your conversation should reflect that. Matthew 12:34 says out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Out of a good heart good treasures

...Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house.


posted by Mischele  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Folks,
The Christian Church was born out of persecution, and had its initial a rapid growth out of persecution! (Read Acts) Jesus tells us to expect persecution, and that if we endure it for His sake, we will be rewarded! Now just imagine if the early Church leaders concerned themselves with retaliation, instead of speading the Gospel? The world is watching the Church, both in how we function, and how we react to stress! They are supposed to be witnessing something special; a reflection of spirituality, not worldly reaction! This is how we are to reach the lost! By showing them something different! Forgiveness is literally turning the other cheek; period! When Chirst told Peter how many times we must forgive, He was not giving him a number to keep track of, but a principle to follow! That is what we must demonstrate to the world if we are to reach them! Jesus is calling us to a higher standard with forgiveness! Obviously, this is something the world does not understand; sadly it is becoming apparent that many 'Christians' do not! God bless you!
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

Dear Mischele,
You are being very judgemental, and defensive. You have obviously not read what I have been writing, because if you had, you would have no doubt read that I neither begrudge, nor envy what Dr. Pirce may or may not have in terms of worldly possesions. As for his spirital walk, or mine, only God claims to know what's in a mans heart. It is sad that you have assumed that prerogotive with repect to me! Also dearest one, there is no hate (jealousy) in my heart for anyone, let alone Dr. Price. As for your suggestion that I Imitate; whom are you suggesting I imitate? Dr. Price? I am not here to imitate anyone in order to acquire 'worldly' wealth! I am here and was commisioned to preach the Gospel, and imitate Christ! If we are called to be Christ-like and spiritual, then one of the fruits of this type of committment must produce is forgiveness! This is all I have ever advocated on this blog! Forgiveness! And the evidence of forgiveness is the releasing of an offender of any right one may have for retaliation! I humbly and repsectfully submit that even Dr. Price is not too old or proud to learn something! I know that I certainly am not! God bless you!
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Thursday, August 09, 2007

I agree that Pastor Price may have already forgiven them but may be being led by the Spirit to take legal action. Yes God says that vengeance is His so who's to say that this is NOT His way of doing so? (Especially if we ALL KNOW that God uses people (most of the time) to accomplish His will).

This could be another example of God making a public spectacle of satan since he has always made a spectacle of us (the body) by making the church always look broke, desperate and powerless.

The Word does say that the wealth of the wicked (that is wicked saved-because they DO exist, and unsaved), will be laid up for the just. Remember, He never said HOW He was going to do it, just that He is).

The Kingdom has to be financed in order to get the Gospel out. Fact of the matter is, EVERYTHING (in this realm) costs money in some way, shape or form.

And besides, I think it may be time for the church to set a precedence that YES we will turn the other cheek but we won't tolerate abuse...and the church has been abused in this way for too long.

posted by Makajo10  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

It is apparent that you are jealous that Dr. Price has what he has and because of the jealousy in your heart/spirit God can not use anyone to bless you with the same. You are ignorant of the facts and making statements reflecting it. Dr. Price has been a blessing to countless number of lives and what you are seeing are the fruits of his life's work.

Min. Jonathan and shondab, what God has done for Dr. Price He will do for you. He is no respector of persons. DON'T HATE, IMITATE

posted by Mischele  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

So it's okay to quote Jesus about throwing the first stone, but it is not okay to quote Him about forgiveness?

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

There is a time for everything. A time to 'stand and see the salvation of the Lord' and a time to 'pursue, overtake and recover all' If God has guided the man of God to take legal action which will publicly clear his name and cause mischief makers to act cautiously and ascertain their facts before making blanket bogus claims....who is anyone to say he should not?
Forgiveness is not the issue. I believe he has forgiven as he must. I'll forgive the man who stole my credit card, but I'd still like to have it back, thank you very much.

posted by bomuku@hotmail.com  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Well, I don't know about you guys, but Jesus just said okay, if you're perfect, go ahead and put that rock upside Dr. Price's head....sorry, but I gotta drop my rock and go. I'll see you later, cause I don't have it like that. I guess some of you all do. Peace!

posted by CVon  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Min J

I agree totally with the forgivness factor, it helped me in all areas of my life and my salvation and in my family. Dr. Price should forgive. I ask my self "What makes me any different from Jesus." He forgave me when I was stinkin in sin and loved me more than I loved myself. Forgiveness should be part of our spiritual make-up in times of defermation and in times of praise.

Shonda

posted by shondab  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

We are in agreement that what is happening to and in the body of Christ is wrong. I will continue to pray for Dr. Price and his ministry and that God's will be done. We as the body of Christ still need to speak out on these issues and make them know to the body of Christ so when they see it they know how to pray and do something about it.

Shonda

posted by shondab  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Folks please calm down and take a breath? The issue is not what Pastor Price may or may not have. The issue is how do we as Christians react when we have been offended! I do not begrudge Pastor Price any of his possesions. I am sure that he works very hard and may well be entitled to them! That gets into the area of being judgemental, and I am no prepared to do that! The only thing that I was advocating is the Christian way of reacting when we are injured purposely by others. There is no doubt that this has happened with Pastor Price. There is also no doubt according to the above article that they (ABC) went out of their way to issue multiple retractions, and personal apologies to Pastor Price. As Christians, according to the example and instuctions of Christ, we are to be forgiving, and this was a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate this to the world! Anything less is unforgiving, and not an example of Christianity in action! We cannot serve two masters! Either we react to harm done to us as the world would, or as Christ commands us to. We cannot do both.
God bless,
Min. Jonathan

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Well then my apology, let us agree. I feel the same way and see it all the time too. It bothers me too. I am going through something in regards to that with my home church in which my pastor is one of Pastor Price's sons in the ministry.

You're right, those that are participating in such madness will be held accountable. And(for me), I have been seeing how the Spirit of God is seperating the wheat from the chaff.

posted by Makajo10  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Continuation of message below:

Why don't you WORK HARD for that Bentley instead of sticking your hand out with a "bless me" attitude? Or better yet, why don't you get lined up with the Word... You never know, since God is not a man that He should lie, you just might find that the Word will work for you IF you're obedient just like it has for Pastor Price and the others!

And oh yeah, I won't give you a Bentley but I will give you this:
(Philippians 2:12-16) Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.
14Do everything without complaining or arguing, 15so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe 16as you hold out[a] the word of life—in order that I may boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor for nothing.



posted by Makajo10  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Pastor Price has worked hard and his blessings have been the fruit of ALL of his labor. He is financially fiscal and responsible - planning, saving, and investing well. As an afro-american man that has learned not to give into "the microwave mentality" like most of us (honestly speaking) have "learned" (as a result of not being taught), he is a role model WORTH looking up to.

Unfortunately, those of us that still operate out of the "crabs in the barrel" mentality that don't have anything, look for hand outs instead of hands up, and then say that we are "keepin' it real" by calling those obviously anointed and appointed by God "Christian Pimps" apparently don't have anything except for time to criticize others and the work and blessings of God because of our own JEALOUSY!!!

You want someone to GIVE you something? Why don't you sow more and believe God for your return instead of criticizing those that do! That's not to say that some aren't out there abusing their positions which really is a privilege to serve God, but I haven't heard you say that you are doing YOUR PART by PRAYING FOR THOSE IN AUTHORITY (called or NOT).



posted by Makajo10  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Christian Pimps. I call it how I see it. Jesus did'nt live the lifestyle that some of these bishops, pastors, ministers and other leaders live and he still managed to get te mission complete and that was to save the world. Christianity and church is BIG business and a money maker for these people. They play on peoples emotions and circumstances to get their trust and money. (Sound like a pimp to me.) We have to hole these people accountable. "God will hold them accountable". is NOT enough.
We need to open our minds, eyes, mouth and close our pockets. As for Dr. Price, if the shoe fit wear it. Just be real about what you are doing, and that is pimpin.

Reminds me of Bishop Magic Don Jaun, a pimp and being real about it.

I have been serving the Lord all my life and spreading the Gospel. Can someome give me a Bently as a Gift. Just thought I might ask.

posted by shondab  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Christian Pimps. I call it how I see it. Jesus did'nt live the lifestyle that some of these bishops, pastors, ministers and other leaders live and he still managed to get te mission complete and was to save the world. Christianity and church is BIG business and a money maker for these people. They play on peoples emotions and circumstances to get their trust and money. (Sound like s pimp to me.) We have to hole these people accountable. "God will hold them accountable". is NOT enough.
We ne to open our minds, eyes, mouth and close our pockets. As for Dr. Price, if the shoe fit wear it. Just be real about what you are doing, and that is pimpin.

Reminds me of Bishop Magic Don Jaun, a pimp and being real about it.

I have been serving the Lord all my life and spreading the Gospel. Can someome give me a Bently as a Gift. Just thought I might ask.

posted by shondab  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

I am so glad that Pastor Price had the guts to take a stand against ABC's 20/20. I don't even like to watch those shows when they have segments on religion because alot of times they never have the entire truth. It is all about stirring up controversy and ratings. Thank you Pastor Price for taking a stand against the wiles of the enemy.

May God continually Bless you, your family and your congregation.

In Christ,
Joyce Kennamore
San Antonio, TX

posted by greatjoy7  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

I congratulate Dr. Price and stand behind the decision to sue and clear his good name. I have read negative comments against Dr. Price during this forum and really believe it is jealousy (or what the younger generation refers to as hateration) trying to conceal itself as concern. You should be thanking Dr. Price for taking a stand instead of making non-supporting comments. If he does not stand up, guess what, they could be coming after you/your ministry next. Did you ever think of that while you are making all of these hateful comments about Dr. Price? 1 Corinthians 13:4: Love is patient and kind. Love is NOT JEALOUS or boastful or proud. Cain let that jealous spirit into the world and it has ran rampart every since. The enemy comes to steal, kill and destroy and satan uses people; so if they come in his name than we have the right to defend ourselves in the Name of Jesus.

posted by Mischele  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

i wonder what 20/20 would have said about solomon

posted by hgodsgarn@aol.com  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

i wonder what 20/20 would have said about solomon

posted by hgodsgarn@aol.com  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Minister Jonathan...

(An article on March 10th that aired on 20/20 about Rev. Frederick K.C.Price)

Part 2:

Jeshua many times was accused of something that was not correct, and not one time that I have studied did I NOT see Him offer forgiveness. I MEAN EVEN UP TO THE VERY DAY OF DEATH ON THE CROSS...HE STILL ASKED YAHWEH TO FORGIVE THEM!!! Now if that is not one of the greatest examples of forgiveness...I don't know what is.
To close...Price is not the only one of these persons that feels it’s wrong when the news media get theirs hooks/claws/teeth into them. The media does what the media does...and they do it well. What??? this is what they were designed to do - whether good or bad the media is here to stay (soooo just get used it). However, not all Pastors have a PIMP'ish spirit. Many of them are very genuine and still have great substance. Why? because Yahweh knows their hearts and true intentions and He blesses them for that. A nice car is great, Jeshua had one too! His was an El Burro Edition - grey or brownish in color, four hoof drive convertible, no high-tech navigation system though...He always knew where He was going.
I guess He didn't need a Yacht...because He could walk on water. And as for flying to His next revival comfortably...hmmm...I guess the Wings of Grace and Mercy were just a prayer away. I guess kind of like the South West commercial "DING!!!”
Oh! but wait, He didn't have a laptop...so how did He hear the "DING!!!"?
I'm not knocking the Bentley, Jet or Yacht they are very nice items to own. But what is wrong with flying first class on a public airline? How many times have you seen a pastors Bentley pull up to hospital or a homeless shelter. Or has one under-privileged person ever been invited to spend a day on one these Yachts??? Oh! maybe he/she does not want it to get scratched or dented??!! Well...I say that if HE gave it to you HE can protect it whatever is His. So then...

when is ENOUGH...ENOUGH???

B.J.


posted by BJ2  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Minister Jonathan...

(An article on March 10th that aired on 20/20 about Rev. Frederick K.C.Price)

Part 1:
I agree with you and feel that this whole issue should be a lesson of forgiveness. If Price thinks/feels that he was wronged, defamed or the likes...you would think that he would have just said "Ok...the facts are wrong and...” But NO, he wants to retaliate - and we all know that law suites beget money for the most part. So why does he take the position of Vengeance Is Mine? In the name of (Ohhhh...I've been hurt and my name is smudged...and...Sniff-sniff...they told a lie about my wealth...and...Blah-blah-blah...)? Man-up Price!!
And the fact that there are other people that are under ministries (which does not deserve a capital M), that are falling for this every day. (Then there was someone that wrote in reference to this issue that said "I give abundantly so that he can live nicely and pampered...) I truly just shake my head and wonder.
Not anywhere in the Bible that I read or seen, is there the example of Jeshua living this type of lifestyle. I'm not saying that a person that propagates "The" Gospel should not have nice things, but some of these pastors have just taken this
"mega-ministry" thing to another level!!!


posted by BJ2  @ Wednesday, August 08, 2007

By the way,
If you do not understand about the primacy of forgiveness in the Gospel, (it is the very essence of Christianity and as such can never be talked about too much!) then I wonder whose Gospel you are really spreading! UUUMMMM?
Praying for you!
Min. Jonathan

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Saturday, August 04, 2007

Dearest one,
I am saddened by the sarcastic tone you take about a serious matter. First, I have stopped responding about this matter days ago! Second, neither you or anyone else has the right to tell anyone what they should or should not talk about! Third, the party who is responsible for a lawsuit is the party who brings it. It is for the Judge or jury to decide if they have merit! Last, I have never suggested that Dr. Price did not have merit or a right to sue. Indeed, I have maintained that what they (ABC) did was wrong! I have only suggested that Christians have a blueprint as to how we should act and react when we are attacked! AND, that in my humble opinion, a wonderful lesson on forgiveness might be taught in this! Beyond that, whether or not Dr. Price wishes to sue, I am praying for him and wishing him well! On a personal note, your attempt to "take me to the wood shed" as it were, was beneath the dignity of a Christian, and for that I forgive you!
Blessings,
Min. Jonathan

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Saturday, August 04, 2007

Wow! After all this time I can not believe that primarily 1-person seems to keep the comments flowing about a rather mute issue (at this point). uummm ??? Makes me wonder what's the real deal on that persons insistence on keeping the conversation going! Anyway, how interesting that Dr. Price and the rest of us Crenshaw Christian Center members have moved on (again ... never missing a step) with what's important, spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ. Enough with whether Dr. Price has forgiven (all) those involved ... blah, blah, blah. That was, and continues to be a non-issue! Finally, do a little research. Do know that Dr. Fred and Dr. Betty are COMPLETELY transparent about EVERYTHING (including how/when/where our monies are spent). Do yourself (and us) a favor and take a look at who the responsible parties are in this lawsuit and who and why Dr. Price is suing. You'd be surprised (maybe?) as to what is really going on here. For the record, this scenario was been brought on by a paid informant that that network has used in the past to bring down other ("televangelists"). Please remember (if you saw the broadcast), that Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer and others were portrayed in this expose. However, Dr. Price was highlighted and it was “inferred” that he was guilty of extravagance at the sake of his parishioners. Ssssooooo, since it's all a bunch of foolish, nasty inferences, Dr. Price is suing to get the network reprimanded for NOT following protocol with research, etc. The financial portion is mandated by the Court (as we’ve requested). Do yourself a favor and go on our website. All you need to know is there (including where to begin some research on the person responsible). So, please enough with this. We are fine at CCC. Thank you!

posted by speakerlistens@yahoo.com  @ Saturday, August 04, 2007

...I should say pray and keep Satan under out feet!

posted by CVon  @ Thursday, August 02, 2007

I agree with Jeffrey4321 and we should joint him in prayer. Let's just not be spectators. What affects Dr. Price affects the Body of Christ. But we have the victory. The scriptures say that we do not wrestle with flesh and blood (20/20) but against principalities, powers and rulers of the darkness of this word, against spiritual wickedness in high places. We may not know the enemy's full plan, so it's always good to join together as a body and pray.

posted by CVon  @ Thursday, August 02, 2007

Grettings in Jesus name,Please my brothers and sisters,give God in Dr.price a chance,he may win this suit,and only desire for repayment to be airtime,that he and other minister who have been wrongly accussed ,to teach the world about The God of thier ministry,imagine be able to see Dr.Price,Dr.Creflo dollar,Bishop T.D.Jakes,having airtime on 20/20 teaching Gods word as repayment,from 20/20.It most also be aired at the primest of time and paid for by the devil in this case 20/20,please join me in prayer,...Now unto Him that is able to presnt you faultless

posted by jeffrey4321  @ Thursday, August 02, 2007

I hope Dr. & Mrs Price, end up owning part of Disney or at least most of ABC networks.
Praise the Lord!

posted by Diamonduchess  @ Wednesday, August 01, 2007

I agree with you

Bishop Don

posted by Apostle donaldrwilkerson  @ Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Bishop Don,
Let me get this straight: You believe that whenever a Saint makes any decision that we should support it? People make bad dcisions all of the time especially when we fail to ask the Holy Spirit's guidance when making them. It is as those times when the body of believers should lovingly step forward, and help correct the brother or sister as outlined in Scripture! If I as a child of God am doing something wrong, I expect my Church to step to me out of loving correction! That is how we 'support' each other!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Wednesday, August 01, 2007

THANK GOD THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD WHO'S GOOD WORKS ARE NOT CHALLENGED BY INDIOSYNCRATIC MEDIA IGNORANCE. "BLESSED ARE YE WHEN MEN SHALL REVILE YOU, SPEAK OF YOU FALSELY AND PERSECUTE YOU FOR MY NAMESAKE.........." MAY YOU CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE FAITH OF THE BELIEVERS IN GOD'S KINGDOM. BE BLESSED AND ENJOY THE FAVOR OF GOD.






HID IN HIM,
PASTOR W.CARVER BROWN,1ST.

posted by Pastor W. Carver Brown  @ Wednesday, August 01, 2007

The point is what ever a person choice to do is between them and God and whatever that choice is we should all respect it as one body. we all don't have to agree on Dr. Price choice, but the fact is that is what is is doing and Jesus still loves him and I love him and there is nothing nobody can about that. That family choice to forgive and to leave it at that. Dr. Price family choice to forgive and take it a step father, but are right in there own way. Can't we see that. One helps to teach us how to let go and the only not to let people walk over us. Its what the Holy Spirit is teaching us. That why we must learn from what he is showing us about ourselves. So, no point just sharing a story so we can see how we can have to different points of veiws. So long as we have the Love of God behind what we do both are right.

Bishop Don

posted by Apostle donaldrwilkerson  @ Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Bishop Donald R. Wilkerson and your point is ...............................?


posted by uprayup  @ Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Why would anyone question the actions of Dr. Price. He has worked hard for the past 30 years and deserves every blessing that God has given him. There is absolute no excuse for what happened. He should definitely sue 20/20 over the airing of the false story. God expects us to use the intelligence that he has blessed us with all the time. I suspect God would be displeased if you consistently let others walk on you and be defied. Christians should not be sending a message that it is OK to be mistreated. God wants the best for all of his children even it means suing to protect the blessing that he has given us. The apology has been accepted.

posted by VonK  @ Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Please read this and tell me what Dr. Price should do.
(Dorchester, Mass.)—Four years ago, Kai Leigh Harriot (age 3) was playing on her porch with her big sister Aja. On the street near the house, a man named Anthony Warren began to argue with the others he was with and suddenly, shots were fired into the air. Those bullets found their way to where the girls were playing, and when one flew right past Aja's face, she quickly grabbed her little sister Kai, and ran inside the house. It was then that Aja turned Kai over and found a pool of blood from where a bullet had entered her back and shattered her spine. The injured 3-year-old was rushed to the hospital where doctors spared her life, but diagnosed that she would likely never walk again—being paralyzed from the waist down. "I've never had anger," said Tonya, Kai's mother. "I don't know why I was given this cup to drink, but I never had anger for him." Perhaps some of Tonya's amazing attitude rubbed off on little Kai, as when the trial finally approached—3 years later—Kai insisted on being present to speak a word to her assailant. Kai (5-years-old by that time) took the stand and—looking directly at the shooter—said, "Anthony Warren, what you did was wrong, but I still forgive you." The action moved Warren, who then changed his plea to guilty and apologized. After the trial, Kai's mother, Tonya, not only shook his hand, but embraced Anthony Warren.

Bishop Donald R. Wilkerson
Exodus House Mininsty
New Orleans, La.

posted by Apostle donaldrwilkerson  @ Tuesday, July 31, 2007

After reading the many comments ( opinions ) to this issue, I feel complied to respond. Yes I do believe God does command for us to forgive. Yet in forgiving if any of us were to have a daughter,mother,wife or sister raped. And were witness to the person running away. Would we not testify in court because we were christian and commanded to forgive. God gave us the church and the world laws, because of the lawless. If our vechile hit, by a drunk driver, someone killed in our family. Would we not testify in court because the law is made for the world. The law is for us as well. Would we forgive and not go to court. Get real people.
Dr. Price and his minstry was violated, and he does have every right to sue,if he so choses. That does not mean he does not forgive. Only God knows whats in that mans heart, who are we to judge. If his motive is not right he has only God to answer to. The word says judge not that you be not judged. He also says if we bite and devour each other we would be consumed one of the other. Pray for this pastor and his ministry we are all of the same body we do need each other to fullfil destiny and reach the lost. The kingdom suffereth violance and the violant take it by force. He that thinks he stand take heed lest he also falls. Yes we can agree to disagree. But to continue you to backlash this minister, makes me wonder what is it that you have against this brother and his ministry, are you any better then 20/20 or ABC judging him. And planting negative seeds in the saints young and old. How much more effective would be our prayers. God can fight for this ministry in the courts of the law. And I certainly pray that he does.

posted by jarc  @ Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Saints of God:

Let us wake up and see that this is just another trap of the enemy to have the children of God in a fight. We must take God at his word when he says that when the enemy comes in like a flood he will lift up a standard against it. We continue to interpret the Bible to our own liking but we have to take it as it is. I applaud all the Saints who are standing up for what the word of God declares. We need to be still and let the Lord fight our battles, and not try to fight them on our own. How can we expect to get to Heaven without trials, lies, prisons, just name it. We have to go through and come out in order to encourage another saint. WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT THE DEVEL IS DOING. OPEN OUR SPIRITUAL EYES AND SEE WHAT GOD IS SAYING TO US AT THIS TIME FROM THIS SITUATION.

posted by Powerful Woman of God  @ Monday, July 30, 2007

Saint,
Just a correction to my previous note: Ephesians 4:26 "Be angry and do not sin!" I hastily attributed that to James. Apologies! Please forgive me?
Min. J

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Monday, July 30, 2007

Beloved,
James tells us in his epistle "In our anger, do not sin!" It is expected that in this Christian walk from time to time people will do things to us that will make us angry! We all have feelings, so none are immune! But we are to be careful when attacked in how we respond! One of my favorite sayings is "Little eyes are watching!" This not only includes children, but also those who are young in their spiritual walk as well as the unsaved who are searching for answers! To each of these, our reactions can be an example of Christian grace, whereby they may be strengthened and encouraged! If we react improperly or worldly, we can literally add fuel to the fire, and be a source of discouragement; a 'stumbling block' if you will, to the very ones who we are supposed to encourage! There is a lesson on rights that we just do not get and it saddens me, and that is, Just because we have a right to do something, does not mean it is the right thing to do! Dr. Price has absolutely the right to sue. But if by suing it becomes a source of confusion to our spiritually young, or it adds fodder for the enemy camp, or if a greater lesson (forgiveness) can be taught by not suing, I think he ought to consider it! God bless!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Monday, July 30, 2007

Dear TAGL,
Whose law are you talking about? If you will recall, the Phariseees and the Sadduccees used the "law" to both abdicate their priestly responsiblilies, and promote themselves! The only law that is applicible to Christians is "Love God with your whole heart, mind and spirit, and ... love you neighbor as you love yourself!" You use the law of man to superceed the law of God and that is dangerous! You are right that Pastor Price has every right to seek compensation according to the law of man! According to the law of God as given to us by Christ, we should seek to forgive those who have wronged us! And that very much is the point of theis whole lawsuit business! The idea of going to court is to seek compensation in an attempt to make one whole (financially if not physically)! It is about compensation! That is why forgiveness is exactly what this case should be about! You are saying to the party who has injured you (intentionally, negligently or not) that although I have the right, I give up my right to exact compensation from you! Remember, it was man who violated the law of God, which gave God every right to exact revenge upon us! He chose instead to provide an avenue of forgiveness through the death of His only Son! Aren't you glad he did! Show your gratitude! Forgive somebody! God bless!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Sunday, July 29, 2007

Min. Jonathan you are right.

posted by bearfruit  @ Sunday, July 29, 2007

From my understanding this was an illustrated sermon, with Dr. Price depicting the wrong way -- they took that part of the illustration as if he were talking about himself. This reporting was unethical, unfair, and down right wrong. I'm very glad that Dr. Price is suing the network, now enough is "Enough"!

posted by mooreup  @ Sunday, July 29, 2007

AdamBaumen: Just within the past 6 months Dr. Price mentioned that he gives his salary back to the church. He didn't say 30% he said "the salary". Unless he has said something different since February, please correct me. And I know Dr. Betty, a while back, decided to give her salary back to the church. But regardless.

However, that's not the point. The point is, he isn't living the life of luxury as they said he was. He does have a lot and by no means would his salary from his church pay for it all. He is capped off at a certain amount. Just recently someone gave him an honorarium of $100,000. That is just from speaking at a conference for a few days. SO if he did that 2-3 days per week that for me would be a nice chunk of change. But for him that's nothing because he is a sowing man. He has sowed into the Kingdom of God for over 50 years. The luxury cars that he drives were gifts to him and so what if he purchased one for his wife, he can afford to do so in cash. He writes books, he speaks to people. And don't forget an honorarium is just that. Whatever a church decides to give him is what he accepts.

When ABC reluctantly aired that program without Dr. Price's knowledge, they, by law, can be taken to court for defemation. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FORGIVENESS! I can forgive the man who just totalled my car. But I still, by the Law, have a right to prosecute him to 1.) replace the vehicle that was lost. 2.) any monies lost during the incident. and 3.) for pain and suffering. Tell me where in the bible does it say you can not take a NON CHRISTIAN to COURT. The bible even gives you reason to take Christians to court. So let's get off of the subject of forgiveness, it's not an issue.

We as christians have a right to live the good life in abundance. We are supposed to have every need met. Nothing broken nothing missing. We are to be the head and not the tail. Stop accepting lack and take what God has stored for you. Walk in abundance and receive your inheritance.


posted by TAGL  @ Sunday, July 29, 2007

I believe Pastor Price is suing ABC's 20/20 perhaps because of fear of having his prestigious reputation ruined. The bible says that all who choose to live godly will suffer persecution. It also says to deny yourself, take up your cross and follow Him(Jesus). Those who live for Christ must die to self. Dead men don't get offended. I understand that we are human and our first response is to be upset. Naturally we will respond but we must learn to allow the Holy Spirit to control our reactions. We have to die to the old man and live in the new man. That is why we must walk in the Spirit of God. If the accusations are false why go to the courts. God will vindicate him. To me he is saying "this is to big for you God, I need to take this to a higher mandate." I just do not believe that he should lose money, sleep, or time over this because for all who choose to live godly will suffer persecution.

posted by shearin  @ Sunday, July 29, 2007

Beloved,
Our job as Chistians is to help shine the light of God's love into a dying and fallen world! Jesus gave us some wonderful tools with which we might do just that! The most powerful tool, (other than prayer) the one that demonstrates God's love for us best is FORGIVENESS! It is the very principle that gives us hope for redemption! It is the very thing that appeals most to one who is bound in sin and a sinful past! That whatever their sins were in their past, God has through the sacrifice of Jesus provided a plan for wiping them away! How do we make that appeal to the unsaved, if we are not willing to demonstrate this most central of Chrisian principles TO the world? Why are we so concerned by what the world thinks of us if we are abiding by Christ's words, and submitted to God's will? Once we are saved, the world might make us pay for sins of the past, but God certainly does not, and neither should we as Christians! Understanding this and putting it into practice will shine more light and help save more souls than anything else besides prayer that we can do! God bless you

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Sunday, July 29, 2007

Dear Curious one,
I do not need to look up the definition for unforgiveness in a dictionary because I have been talking about forgiveness, and how IT is defined by the Word of God! And as Forgiveness is THE core value of Christianity, it is not subject to interpretation! (that is called moral equivalancy and it is a spiritually dangerous condition) It is what it is! It is the attitude of releasing one from the consequences of the harm they inflicted upon you! Christ began and ended His ministry on earth by forgiving! And the shedding of His blood provided propitiation to facilitate God's forgiveness of us! And for clarification, I do not condemn Pastor Price for pursuing a lawsuit. I simply suggest that with all of the attention given to this matter, it would be a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate the principle of forgiveness to a fallen world! Everone knows that ABC did wrong! What is subject to interpretation is whether they did so purposely or not! They well might have, but if your position is that you know that they did, you are assuming the Almighty's quality of knowing mens hearts! Whether they purposely presented falsehoods or not is irrelevent to how we as Christians are to react to attacks on us! If you as a Christian base how you react based upon your 'subjective interpretation' of forgiveness instead of Christ's demonstration of it, you could be in trouble! God Bless you

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Sunday, July 29, 2007

I'm curious Minister Jonathan, you mention a lot what Jesus said about forgiveness, yet "I" believe it's application is open to interpretation. You believe that by suing you are acting in un-forgiveness.
That is most unfortunate. By saying that Dr. Price is acting in un-forgiveness, is to say that Dr. Price is unforgiving.

If you look up the definition of unforgiving you will find a definition similar to this:

1. not disposed to forgive or show mercy; unrelenting
2. not allowing for "mistakes, carelessness, or weakness"

Here lies the issue. Did 20/20 "mistakenly and/or carelessly write a story to discredit Dr. Price and the others involved or was it deliberate and/or a purposely malicious attack for the sake of beliefs (doctrine) and ratings.

By answering that question you are choosing a side. By not answering that question you are stating that you don't know or choose not to take sides. But I believe that is the question at hand and that is the purpose of the lawsuit.

Are 20/20 mere innocents who didn't know any better and we are to forgive them of their trespasses or are they operating under the influence of Satan and did what they did knowingly for the purpose of "stealing, killing and destroying?"

Again, it all comes back to what you believe.

Do you forgive Satan for all that he steals, kills and destroys? Or do "You" put him in his place in the name of Jesus for all of his transgressions.

Now I don't claim to be perfect and a Bible scholar and i may have included a lot of my personal opinions in this post, but my core concept remains constant.

Is forgiveness and forgiveness alone enough, in THIS instance where the parties involved feel like they have been "attacked" rather than mistakenly trampled over.

posted by adambaumen@gmail.com  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

TAGL Your heart was in the right place, but you had a few of your facts wrong. Dr. Betty gives 100% of her salary back to the church. Dr. Price receives a salary and tithes 30% instead of the required 10%. So to recap, a couple of whom both are full time in the ministry live off of 70% of the income of one individual. God is good don't you think?

Min. Jonathan and all others who feel we need to be "door-mats" and that by suing means you're walking in un-forgiveness.

John 10:10 - The parenthetical(s) are examples that "I" added to paint a picture.

The thief does not come except to steal (money from God's servant, his ministry and ultimately the Body of Christ), and to kill (the desire to become a Christian for anyone who may have been looking to Dr. Price and his ministry for guidance), and to destroy (Dr. Price'[God's faithful servant of whom Christ also dwells] reputation, thereby tarnishing his ministry and attempting to dampen his effectiveness of reaching and saving the lost). I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly (not quite sure what abundantly means to some but the definition reads: overflowing; the root word abundant meaning 1. present in great quantity; more than adequate; over sufficient; well supplied; abounding; richly supplied.)

posted by adambaumen@gmail.com  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

God bless you Newness! As young Christian it is very important that you understand that at the very heart of Jesus' ministry was forgiveness! I believe you understand that! All too often we get caught up in ministry that they become 'our' ministry, instead of Christ's ministry! And at that point, we can become defensive, even hostile when we are attacked! Jesus makes it very plain that the price of following Him means that our ministries will be subject to attack! We know this! Our attitude in how we respond to those attacks will demonstrate whether we 'getit' or not! We must face everyone and every situation with a demonstrable love! That is often difficult to do! But when we do not, we are giving the glory to the enemy, and not to God! I'm praying for you!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

Q: Are there leaders in the Christian world fleecing the sheep instead of feeding them?
A: Yes
Q: Does this give those who are doing right a bad name and a tougher time?
A: Unfortunately, yes!
So since we know the above is true, we need not do anything to feed into this already bitter taste. I agree with those who feel that this is an opportunity for us Christians to show what true love and forgiveness really are. By not suing, even though you can, reminds me of CHRIST not calling down fire from Heaven to burn HIS accusers, even though HE could have.
We all know the tag/wristbands "WWJD"; well here is a chance to do just that.
We need to stop putting Church leaders on a peddle stool that makes them demigods or even treat them like they are closer to GOD than we are so they cannot be touched or should not be persecuted, GOD is not a respecter of persons...so if they go after Dr. Price (I do respect him and all that he has achieved but that does not make him any different from you and I), they surely can come after us.
At the end of the day whether it is Dr. Price, Brother Joe or Mr. Nobody …as Christians there ought to be the same standard of expectation…our reaction should be one that exemplifies what we call ourselves.
A young brother is going through a situation right now in the NFL, Michael Vick. So many have already written him off and left him out to dry…how many of us are praying for him…CHRIST said “he with no sin cast the first stone”. So his issue is dog fighting, well, what is yours? What is mine?
Fair to say we have 2 situations here affecting 2 famous Christians. One trying to sue and another being sued; one needs to show his accusers love and forgiveness. The other needs love and forgiveness from his accusers.
“I give you a new commandment: love one another; as I have loved you, so you are to love one another. If there is this love among you, THEN EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES”
(John 13: 34, 35)
GOD’s Speeeeeeeed
~K


posted by kehindelaw  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

Q: Are there leaders in the Christian world fleecing the sheep instead of feeding them?
A: Yes
Q: Does this give those who are doing right a bad name and a tougher time?
A: Unfortunately, yes!
So since we know the above is true, we need not do anything to feed into this already bitter taste. I agree with those who feel that this is an opportunity for us Christians to show what true love and forgiveness really are. By not suing, even though you can, reminds me of CHRIST not calling down fire from Heaven to burn HIS accusers, even though HE could have.
We all know the tag/wristbands "WWJD"; well here is a chance to do just that.
We need to stop putting Church leaders on a peddle stool that makes them demigods or even treat them like they are closer to GOD than we are so they cannot be touched or should not be persecuted, GOD is not a respecter of persons...so if they go after Dr. Price (I do respect him and all that he has achieved but that does not make him any different from you and I), they surely can come after us.
At the end of the day whether it is Dr. Price, Brother Joe or Mr. Nobody …as Christians there ought to be the same standard of expectation…our reaction should be one that exemplifies what we call ourselves.
A young brother is going through a situation right now in the NFL, Michael Vick. So many have already written him off and left him out to dry…how many of us are praying for him…CHRIST said “he with no sin cast the first stone”. So his issue is dog fighting, well, what is yours? What is mine?
Fair to say we have 2 situations here affecting 2 famous Christians. One trying to sue and another being sued; one needs to show his accusers love and forgiveness. The other needs love and forgiveness from his accusers.
“I give you a new commandment: love one another; as I have loved you, so you are to love one another. If there is this love among you, THEN EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES”
(John 13:34, 35)
GOD’s Speeeeeeeed
~K


posted by kehindelaw  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

Dr. Price has been defamed....for that, to God be the glory for the continuing affirmation of what Jesus proclaimed would happen to His disciples. However, as both apreachaskid and Min. Jonathon stated, there must be - dare I say there is - a better way to approach this than by suing ABC et al. The defamation of Dr. Price should serve as an opportunity for some good for the entire Body and not just for Dr. Price. After all, the PRIMARY concern is the good of the Body right?

If so, how about this...ABC should have to air a piece on "20/20" which highlights the good works done by the Body. And while that piece would certainly include feeding, clothing, counseling, job placement, housing, etc., the primary focus would be on what should be our primary focus - the souls that have been saved by the pure, unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ.

If the purpose of a lawsuit is to seek revenge/retribution/"take back what the devil stole"/"put the world on notice"/etc. what better way than pointing some to the Father through the Son? If you think a monetary settlement would be more appropriate, then I've got more questions for you.

posted by 24lrr  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

We are simply to forgive and forget. ABC apologized, so by continuing to sue them we Christians come off as hypocrites.

posted by Leah Spradlin  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

Min Jonathan I support your stance on this topic 100% and thanks for being a voice of reason. Reaping and sowning doesn't this refer to the spirit and the flesh? Also, we can't expect the unbelieve to have the same standard as we do. We live according to the Bible so what are we so shocked at the media. Would this be an awesome opportunity to turn what the devil meant for evil into good? Can we assess the real damage which most of us would agree is the influence this could have on the unsaved and combat it with a Christian character. It disturbs me to hear of so many individuals wanting revenge. Please remember that the Lord said Vengence is MINE I will repay. True to be a christian doesn't mean we are to be doormats but we are not support to handle our affairs in the same way as the unbelievers. I pray that we all get back to the basics. Have a blessed day.

posted by Newness  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

Please understand the reaping and sowing prinicple. It is not for us to to make sure someone reaps what they sow. It is in God's hands.


posted by shanee.bailey@centerpointenergy.com  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

We all know tha ABC was wrong! They admitted to it! That is no longer the question! The only real question is how do we As Christians respond to those who wrong us! and the only answer for a Christian is what would Jesus have done? I think it is wrong-headed and spiritually dangerous to try to justify how we want to act by cherry-picking scripture! Can you really believe that based on scripture, that Jesus would have gone anywhere near a courtroom to sue someone for wronging Him? If so, I would like to hear where in scripture He displayed that attitude! Folks please go to court all you want, but please stop using Jesus to justify your feelings 'cause it just is not supported by His ministry! I'm praying for you all!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

As I have said, if Dr. Price wants to sue, that is his right! I have only been ponting out that this would be a wonderful opportunity to showcase to the world a higher principle of forgiveness! I base my understanding of forgiveness on what Jesus taught about it! That is the only standard we as Christians ought to use! I have only one question for all of those suite happy individuals out there: Do you really believe that Jesus would have responded to His offenders by taking them to court? You know as well as I that He would not have! He was wounded by His enemies to a far greater degree than Dr. Price was by his! As for there not being any court system in Jesus' day to air his grievances, that is simply not a historical fact! Jesus chose the path of forgiveness period, not forgiveness comma! A lawsuit is about retribution, not restoration! Christians do not deal in retribution! I suggest that any of you who are interested in retribution or support it need to check your spiritual compasses! Again I tell you that there is nothing in the ministry of Christ which supports retribution or revenge! An eye for an eye was not only Old Testament, it was specifically addressed by Christ as a bad policy! God bless!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Saturday, July 28, 2007

My opinion for this case is TOUCH not MY ANOINTED, when you said something against the man or woman set by God publicly or in the closet (Your purpose is to kill and destroy his reputation, his image or his integrity) there is consequences . Forgiveness doesn’t exempt the law of sowing and reaping.
I forgive you 20/20 but you sow something and you need to reap whatever you sow.
If you sow love you reap love, if you sow confusion you reap it .Justice need to be served.
Dr. KC. Price as General Christian Leader in the army of the Lord need to take back what the devil want to steal from us. Fight the good fight of faith.
That why the kingdom of God suffering violence and the violence take it by force.


posted by EDDIE N.MUJINGA  @ Friday, July 27, 2007

I feel like just because Dr. Fredrick sues the company it will not change what the company did to him. It will only change his pockets. I believe that this will also make the media and others to believe that the show might of been right.

posted by shanee.bailey@centerpointenergy.com  @ Friday, July 27, 2007

Just wanted to add to my previous comment.
After reading some of the other postings, Jesus said if they persecuted me they will persecute you. During those times, there was no courtroom that would have justifiably taken care of the situation. Jesus and his followers were in the minority. The simple fact that 20/20 didn't even contact Dr. Price and say, we are going to air this information about you what would you like to say about it, was totally wrong. Had they done that this whole situation could have been avoided. Also note that the piece that they played on Dr. Price was a few minutes long. And they kept flashing pictures of fancy cars and houses whenever they would talk about him or show his picture. That's what made it even worse.

You people don't realize what this type of negligence is doing to the Body of Christ. People who could possibly be thinking about being saved could turn away because of watching 20/20. Dr. Price doesn't have any skeletons in his closet. How he is on TV is how he is in person and at home. He is truly a great man of God and a father of the faith taught ministries. I see this as a tool to stop further assaults on the ministers of the Gospel and it will open doors for more sinners to be saved. It seems as though they never show the real crooks, they are hidden like snakes. But they will reap what they have sown.

posted by TAGL  @ Friday, July 27, 2007

hi, i am glad that this dialogue is being printed. min jonathon the scripture also states that the law is for the lawless. the media needs to be reprimanded for what was put out in the airwaves about a man of God. the scripture tells us not to do a brother that way but when it comes to the devil's people we use their tools and use it fairly. dr. price i am glad for you and the church. not too many can or will because it is a lot of skeletons in the closet. we the church should pray that God's will be done in this case. grace and peace min. jonathon be careful what you say also against a man of God he is your brother some things are better said in prayer keep these darts to yourself. look at some of the people that went against God's doing when pastor price did race,religion and racism

posted by kkreme  @ Friday, July 27, 2007

I am torn between two opinions. When I first read the article I was upset because immediatly the thought entered my mind "here we go again the media is trying to damage the church". But as I began to read the comments of other believers I became troubled because what's pointed out the most it the damage that was done to Dr Price and his families character and there reputation. I admit that I am a relatively new Christian and I wasn't raise in church but I do read my Bible. Everything that Jesus Christ stood for was to do the Will of the Father. He came of no reputation of His own but gave honor and glory to the Father. I agree that if Dr Price wants to seek legal action then it's well within his rights. But Christians, saints, believes or what ever we call ourselves nowadays can we please stay on one accord and do all things in love and not for personal gain. I write this out of no disrespect to Dr Price but Jesus Christ is greater than all and look at what He did for the world. I know this may be elementry to some but this is what I stand on. God Bless and continue to fight the good fight of Faith.

posted by Newness  @ Friday, July 27, 2007

My hat is off to Drs. Price. I agree with the comments that if this were Ophra or Donald Trump etc. 20/20 or any other news program for that matter would not bat an eye. True enough Ophra says that so much false stuff has been written about her that she does not pay it any attention. Remember who she serves. This man and woman of God who teach and preach the gospel are falsely accused. I would think news programs would have learned their lesson over twenty years ago when they accused Carol Barnett of doing something that she did not do. The word of God says to touch not His anointing. Well, you know what happens when you play with fire. You get burned. These news programs need to understand that the anointing is powerful and sharper than a two edge sword. These individuals have changes a lot of lives because they preach the word by the word and the Holy Spirit. I know by the Spirit that it is time for a shift in power. I bind up any and every newscaster, program, radio broadcast etc. that continues to come against the anointing of men and women of God. They are loosed from their assignment in the Name of Jesus.

posted by GPHIG4life  @ Friday, July 27, 2007

I applaud Dr. Fred Price for taking a stand. I understand that we are supposed to forgive those who mistreat us but that is no license for Christians to be door-mats. If you commit adultery and then later repent and ask for forgiveness. God will forgive you and your spouse may forgive you as well but there are consequenes for what you did and I believe that ABC should be held accountable for their actions. Its not like the same people reporting that story are poor or not making their ends meet. No one has the right to judge others by looking at what they have whether or not you are a Christian. Unless you know how God has worked in someone's life you shouldn't judge them. I applaud Dr. Price for doing what he's done. It is time for christians to stop being door-mats and become who Jesus said we were.

posted by Brother Willy   @ Thursday, July 26, 2007

A lawsuit does not mean unforgiveness. The law is for the lawless and if they break the law they are subject to consequences of the law. The kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent taketh by force. How do you suppose we taketh? The bible says "money answers in all matters." If you sin you are forgiven that's bible, the bible never says you don't suffer the consequences of your sin. It's time out for the body of Christ being wimpy Christians.

posted by G8NSB4  @ Thursday, July 26, 2007

When I sin, I have to deal with the consequences of my sin. Reaping and sowing.

posted by Tamesha Danielle  @ Thursday, July 26, 2007

For all of you who disagree with the lawsuit, would you disagree to filing a malpractice lawsuit if your doctor injured you during surgery? But because you have to "forgive" them you don't want to file a suit. Or let's say you were in an accident and a company vehicle was involved, and it was a negligent issue. You wouldn't sue the company for that accident? Hmmm I didn't think so.

Dr. Price is more than allowed to file a lawsuit. This is not about forgiveness. He never said he didn't forgive them. These people are not our Brothers in Christ. We are allowed to take them to court. Are some of you Christians so foolish to believe that we are never to take someone to court. ABC specifically pointed him out along with several other Men and Women of Faith that are great pastors. Joyce Meyer, for one. ALso TBN. TBN is not a Church Ministry. The proof is in the pudding. They are doing GREAT and WONderful things for the body of Christ and I see the money they make being well spent. Do any of you realize what it takes these days to Spread the Gospel. Yet you want them to do it the old fashion way. It won't work. You can still go door to door and try to get people saved. But we are trying to reach the nations.

Dr. Price is 100% accurate to file a lawsuit. He earned every dime he makes. He gets a salary and for those of you who don't know 100% goes back to the church. He gets paid via Honorariums, sales of Books that he has personally wrote, and several other business ventures that he has started. So he IS NOT taking the money from the CHurch as that ABC special so "kindly" suggested. They need to know that Christians are NOT PUNKS. We ARE NOT just supposed to sit back and allow the world to downgrade us and use us just to get a prayer when they need it. Go on Dr. Price and keep doing what you are doing. I know for sure he doesn't care what other people think of him. He has long ago removed himself from the opinions of other people.

posted by TAGL  @ Thursday, July 26, 2007

Jesus came to earth to die. That is a simple fact! He "called out" as you put it, the religious leaders partly to demonstrate their hypocrisy, but mainly to begin to fulfill His ultimate mission which they were to play a part in. Aren't you glad He did? The running of the money-changers out of the Temple was for the same reasons! To get the ball rolling so to speak! As for the woman who was begging for crumbs from the Master's table, as I recall she ended up being blessed anyway because of her faith!
The Gospel should be viewed in light of the mission of Jesus, which was to suffer, bleed, and die for our sins! Isaiah reminds us of this mission in Chapter 53:4-9. As you read this, understand that Jesus' heart and mind were on His mission! I know He suffered much more indignity than did Dr. Price. I say this not to mitigate the harm done to Dr. Price, merely to put it in perspective! Please take a moment to study this passage, as well as the passion of the Christ! At any time He could have put a halt to the proceedings, and taken any and all of His offenders to court! Where would that have left us? But His mind and heart and soul were on His mission! Ours should be too! We have a mission as children of God! If we walk with integrity, with our eyes fixed firmly upon Jesus, we can endure a little criticism! We should expect it!
Romans 12:17-19 "Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay, says the Lord." God bless you!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Thursday, July 26, 2007

Min Johnathan we will pray that GOD opens you understanding.
Be blessed!

posted by Faith in GOD!  @ Thursday, July 26, 2007

Your point being what, that you are ABC's parent? Dear Saint, as children of God, our relationship to each other is as brothers and sisters! The parent is the Father! So if there is to be any chastisement, please allow the Father to do it! (Vengeance is mine, sayeth the LORD) That's not our job! For when you or I or anyone else who claims to be a believer assumes that role, we are playing god! And yes, servanthood sometimes means being a door-mat, if a door-mat is what is needed to reach the un-repentant! I thank God that Jesus became a door-mat when He took on the sins of the world at Calvary! Some of His last acts before dying was to grant forgiveness: to the repentant thief, to the soldiers who killed Him, and to the religious leaders who demanded His death! He was defamed unfairly, but instead of taking His defamers to court, He went to the cross! And I for one am grateful! Again if Dr. Price feels that a suit is his best option, then I say go for it. I believe however that the best option is to take all opportunities that present themselves to demonstrate God's love! We can only do that by modeling ourselves after Christ's example; "forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us!" God bless you dear one!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Thursday, July 26, 2007

One day we will learn that the term Christian does NOT mean doormat! Drs Fred and Betty Price have been defamed. They have a right to seek restitution. This defamation could have caused some who may have listened and been saved, to believe the report of the press and go unsaved.

When Jesus went into the temple and threw out the money changers, he didn't love them any less. But he set them straight. When Jesus "called out" the Pharisees and Saducees for their pomposity and irreligious ways, he didn't love them any less, but he set them straight. When Jesus told the Samaritan women that he wouldn't give the children's bread to dogs, he didn't flinch.

When our parents disciplined us for wrong-doing, they didn't love us any less, they simply set us straight. Get my point minister?

The media have been ramrodding the church for sometime... unanswered. We are the head and NOT the tail. We are above ONLY and not beneath. It is time we took our rightful places and let the WORLD know that we are not wimps. We are not afraid!And like Sampson, we will stake our claim in the name of our Father. From time to time the kingdom suffers violence... And the violent... *say it with me now" TAKE IT BY FORCE!



posted by Sheila  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

Where in scripture does Jesus ever say "Your sins are forgiven, but I'm holding you accountable?" Is that the standard that you want God to hold YOU to? If you feel the need to penalize, or as you say "hold accountable" another party for their transgression, you have NOT forgiven them! Simple as that! Please PLEASE read what Jesus says on behalf of the Father! Don't take my word for it! There is something decidedly un-Christian in the way folks want retrubution in this matter, and it is frightening! Where is vengeance (retribution) found in the New Testament other than what God claims for Himself as a privelege? This NEED for blood is wrong-headed, un-Christian, non-scriptural, and frightening! (Kinda like a lynch-mob) I can and have supported my position scripturally, can you? (New Testament please) I do not intend to address this anymore! You all have your minds made up! While you are out there playing god (for when you are vengeful, you are assuming His prerogative) I'm thanking Him that you are not! God forgive you!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

Min Jonathan I do not believe that anyone is advocating for the unforgiveness of those that lied. One can forgive and still hold others accountable for thier actions. When we sin and God forgives us we still have to deal with the consequences of our actions. I think this is more about making people think before they act. The church is constantly being attacked. We are allowed to answer those attacks.

posted by Tamesha Danielle  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

PRAISE THE LORD! I am glad that this man of God and His wife are taking a stand. The media needs to stop blasting the body of Christ and true men and women of God. The true thieves are not being exposed.

And so what if he acutally had all these things. No one cares that entertainers, athletes and the such are rolling in money and luxuries. While men and women of God are supposed to walk in poverty according to the world systems. These people only provide entertainment while true men and women are God are watching for your souls, standing in the gap and seeking God for you. How dare you now expect them to walk in poverty and lack.

Supporting in Prayer From Cedar Hill, Texas!

posted by seimorne  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

What is it about forgiveness that we all are missing? Yes Dr. Price was maligned! Yes he was hurt! But that is what transgression does! It malignes and wrongfully hurts the party transgressed again! And we are to expect it and be prepared to forgive and extend grace! It does not matter if is an individual, corporation or company, we have a spiritual obligation to forgive! That means we have no choice! We are not to concern ourselves about what the world ultimately thinks of us! It is only God's opinion in the end that will matter! Now if Dr. Price feels the need to sue, then that is up to him! I was simply pointing out that Christianity is about taking the high road, and not conforming ourselves to the ways of this world! It is about taking every opportunity to demonstrate God's love! This would be a wonderful opportunity to do so! How do we do that by taking a vengeful approach? Forgiveness is a very simple and absolute principle, and it has no wiggle room for subjective interpretation. You either do it and accept the Father's forgiveness, or you do not! We cannot mix and match them for our convenience!
Admittedly though, it is the hardest principle to implement. If you want forgiveness from the Father, you must be willing to forgive! This is not something Minister Jonathan is making up, it is scriptural! Please do not try to interpret the scripture to justify feelings of revenge! We must let God handle that while we pray for those who have offended us! Revenge is not what the New Testament is all about! revenge is strictly in God's province. I'm praying for all of you who do not understand that! Those who will not forgive will be lost! It is as simple as that! God Bless you!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

Hello to all. I am thankful that Drs. Fred and Betty Price are suiing. The Drs. are very educated people and besides the fact that what 20/20 reported even if they did have all that stuff they have been in the way for quite sometime. I am just sorry that I'm not apart of the lawsuit I would go buy me a bentley or two... hahaha. I hope you get enough to treat your congregation as well. I'm sure Mickey and Minny can afford it!
God Bless, and don't settle take it all the way and then tell them I accept your apology! Remember our God is loving but he still brought judgement on Sodom and Gomarah
Ramon D.Stembridge

posted by raystem  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

It is okay for oprah, bill gates, donald trump, and some these disgraceful music artist who degrade women and use all type of pornographic language, to live lavishly, But the Kingdom of God has to live in a shack, or catch the bus? Just because I say I am a christian and teach the gospel, or have a large congregation, does not mean all preachers are stealing, dipping, and pimps.

Just because I am save doean't mean I can't have a successful business ( and we are not talking about church business), I can't own property- real-estate, or own stock or investments. Who is ABC to tell anyone when too much is too much. ABC CEO and Walt Disney CEo's are living very well, but honest pastors or christians can't? I beg to differ. Again I support and give KC Price a standing ovation, I HOPE more preachers in the 20/20 interview would step up and join the lawsuit. In fact, I hear more are doing so! Good for them! And those of you who are shouting forgive, please let us know what church you minister at, that way we will not come to your ministy. If the table was turn, you will be speaking a different tune! Stop being biblical passive and ignorant, please for the sake of the Kingdom of God. whats an apology, when the damange has already been done. They should have thought about that before, they deliberately set out to accuse, or make the kigndom of God a Joke. The kingdom of God sufferient violence and the violence taketh by force. Its a new Day, and new hour for believers. Of course we forgive, but we are not ignorant. Justice needs to be serve.

God Bless.

posted by ConquerALL  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

When are some of us going to stop being "ignorant christians", All through scripture it talks about men who were bought to justice for sabbatoging someone's character according to roman law and biblical standards. Even our heavenly father, chastise those for going against his nature ( his character). Forgiveness is one aspect, but justice is another aspect. This not even revenge, this is justice. And the only reason ABC is saying they are sorry, is because of the lawsuit. wOuld they sorry, if preasure and their company's state, was not on the table? Or feeling teh fire from the so many religious cimmunities. NO! I applaud Dr. Price and Betty Price, for slapping ABC with a lawsuit. Christians will not take being falsely accused or their character being lied on, just for worldly pleasure. The devil is a liar. Because had it been Donald Trump, they know they would have gotten a law suitas long their arms, they would not have exchange words. That 20/20 interview was unethical and sloppy. I hope more preachers who was falsely accused step up and take part in the law suit as well. This will send a clear message to ABC, and any other network, that christians are not ignorant, we do have power, and will not be taken as a joke, and it is not okay to degrade our leaders who are making a difference.





posted by ConquerALL  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

Take back what the "devil stoled"!!!!

The bible mentions about us not taking a brother or sister to court....but these are not "brothers and sisters", ok. And the media should be held accountable for their lies and distortion of the truth.

Why isn't there an outcry of anger about the wealthy drug dealers who are making money off the misery of those who are hooked? We had a drug kingpin in our area and when he was violently killed (well, you live by the sword, you perish by it - it was said that he killed someone), you should had heard the nice accolades coming from ignorant folks - "Oh, he was good for buying sneakers for the poor kids in the community!" WHAT???? He was a "destroyer of lives" and even a preacher spoke of him like he was a "savior". He was only 27 and had about seven kids (different "baby mammas") and he was a "hero"???

But let a preacher or even someone like me who works hard drive a Mercedes and there are the stupid comments (he's taking the church's money or in my case, she must have a "sugar daddy"). Why can't we as Christians have nice things? why do we hold on to that poverty mentality and the world out there whose serving the devil gets all the riches?

Trust me, if a preacher is being crooked, God reveals it! Did he do it with the Bakkers? And others? Haven't many lost their ministries due to dishonesty, immorality, etc.?

It is proper for Dr. Price to sue. These people were hellbent on ruining his reputation. And believe me, many folks out there are believing the media.

Why doesn't 20/20 do a show on the "rich drug kingpins"? They are ruining the lives of many while men and women like the Prices are trying to save lives for Christ.

posted by nevita.johnson@astrazeneca.com  @ Wednesday, July 25, 2007

Do not touch a child of God, because if you do you will be equalized!!

posted by vctent  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

It is so funny how we become so Religous about business matters instead of simply handling Business. We know the Pastor Price did not choose the battle, and he is smart enough to know that God works through his vessels in the earth. Too many times Christians allow things to go unchallenged, while we wait to "See what the end gon' be"!!!! Rev. Price is extremley intelligent and has a very sound mind and so we will just touch and agree the God takes control of this case and appoints a Christian Judge to announce the Victory, We know that God has the very last say so.......

posted by uptowndowntown  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the righteous!

posted by robmur3  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

If this were Oprah would you ask her to forgive.
If this were Jay Leno would you ask him to forgive
If it were a movie star and athlete or multimillion dollar corp all with a reputation on the line would you ask them to forgive.
What is wrong with all you Christians? if it were you would you forgive?
Don't you all think pastor price has prayed or will talk to GOD about this?
The man has been preaching for well over a decade do you not think he knows anything about what is right or wrong in the eyes of GOD. Everyone of you christians out there know that is the truth that will set you free. You all know one wrong statement or acutation destroys people business and peoples lives. Is'nt it bad enough he has to deal with all the so called christians that try to tear him down?
Only GOD himself can instruct Pastor Price to pursue or not to pursue. I do know this the kingdom of GOD suffered violence and the violent take it buy force. I say slap the devil down know and he won't try this tacktick again!

posted by Faith in GOD!  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

As a fellow member of the media for many years. And a new Christian. I have mixed emotions on this issue. Yes, Dr. Price should forgive them. However, The Media should be held accountable for its actions. Perhaps if Dr. Price won this suit and donated the money to helping other people, the homeless, and poor families and children, then I feel this will solve both issues.

David Simpson
Digital Media Group, Inc.
Greater Harvest Christian Center

posted by Faithwalker47  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

"Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." "For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins!" "Father forgive them, for they know not what they are doing!" "Vengeance is mine says the Lord!" It surpises me when Christians do not understand forgiveness. When people of the cloth however do not, I am astounded! I have a warning for those of you 'ministers' who do not understand or teach forgiveness properly! It is the very heart and essence of Christianity! Without it, there is no Chritian faith! Jesus admonished Peter in the book of John three times to "Feed my sheep!" If you do not understand forgiveness, you have no business tending His flock! I pray that God will have mercy on your souls! I pray that you will find the true meaning of forgiveness before it is too late for you to BE forgiven!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

It is about time some one stepped up to the plate a sue the "hind" parts off of the media ... anyone with an ounce sense knows that the media intentionally makes partial disclosure on every subject and "we" christians need to address the issue of partial, which is also false disclosure ... I pray that Pastor Price makes a positive impact on Disney - ABC network.

Signed,

ANNAGRACE

posted by ANNAGRACE  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

I am not sure what Bible folks are reading, but forgiveness in my Bible is the very center of Christianity! There is no 'but' to add to it; as in "I'm sure he forgives them, but!"
Is this how you think the heavenly Father applies forgiveness? WITH A BUT....? Do we not believe what is in scripture? Do we not believe Jesus' own admonishment with his own mouth? Did he not, as he was dying on the cross say Father forgive them, for they know not what they do?" Do you believe that Jesus would forgive someone, then drag them into court? Or add a 'but' to his forgiveness? What you are talking about is retaliation, or vengeance! Need I remind you that God says vengeance is His? Please for your souls sakes, make an effort to understand REAL FORGIVENESS! It has no 'buts' attached to it! Be Blessed

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Finally!!!! Somebody has the guts to stand up to these people. Dr. Price is a five star general in this army and he knows how to not only but to battle. I applaud Dr. Price for standing up for his integrity and the integrity of his ministry.

posted by tremendousjewel@yahoo.com  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

I know Dr. Price will forgive them but they must pay. It is sad that the public do not think Preachers should own anything but no one says anything about the rappers, celebrities and sports figures. I know Dr. Price is a man of integrity and his good name will continue.

posted by ldmanning@mchsi.com  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

I am hurt and sadden to know that this defamation of character has happened to Dr. Price and hs family.

To televise a broadcast without consent is wrong and meant to be harmful; otherwise if something good was to come out of it why not contact Dr. Price before airing the segment.

I believe in forgiveness. I also know that something needs to be done that; something like this does not happen again. It's an attack from the enemy. To not do anything would only keep the door open to others who practice this same act of disrespect for God's people.

When an injustice has been done we must speak out and stop it immediately. Since this attack was designed to hurt Dr. Price financially taking it to court is the only way to receive retribution for the damages that may have been done by airing the segment on national television.

God bless Dr. Price and his family with the power to win this lawsuit and spiritual attack against his annoited servants in Jesus name amen.

posted by ronnie7  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

I agree with the actions of Dr. Price. So many, including saints, believe that is okay for CEO's and mobsters, etc to have prosperity, but not a man of God spreading his message. For so many years pastors have been criticized for having any type of wealth. It is time to get poverty out of the body of Christ! The apology was not enough. There are so many people who's walk was effected by the lies told on this show. I can guarantee that the apology did not reach as many people as the lies did. Some of those people are walking around today with a mistrust for the body of Christ out of misinformation. I am glad that he took a stand. Christians it is time to stop being quiet and speak out against the world for the sake of salvation. Thank you, DR. Price. The retraction may not have been heard about, but this lawsuit will be heard. Godspeed!!

posted by Tamesha Danielle  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Grace and Peace,

I am glad that Pastor Price stood up for not only himself, but his family, his church and entire kingdom of God. Silence is a enemy and for him to have remained silent would have suggested that 20/20 was right. Forgiveness is not doing nothing about what has been done wrong, forgiveness is releasing the one who has tresspassed against you from what they did. The word of God teaches us to not take the saints before an unjust judge, not companies and tv shows.... so in all of our getting, let get an understanding. What blessings have we missed being so spiritual and "church" minded that we have greatly failed in being men in bussiness ? Thank you Dr. Price for showing us that you can still be called and anointed and still be knowedgeable of the laws of the land.

Pastor D. Edward Penn, II
Va.


posted by Pastor D. Edward Penn, II  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

I hope he makes them pay. To attack a man like Fred Price then think "sorry" will make it go away is ridiculous. I dont think forgiveness is the issue. When we are robbed we forgive the person but we still require them to pay the penalty of the law. The news media should have to pay the penalty for their reckless reporting. We as Christians should also vote with our remote. I boycott programs that are dishonest and deliberately attack Christians. I hope others will do the sameI will never watch 20/20 again. Antionette Jones

posted by tonigirljones  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Again I will be praying for all parties involved. I do not know how to make plainer that forgiveness is the very essence of the Christian experiance. We cannot be selective of whom we apply forgiveness too! All of us have offended God much worse than those who offended Rev. Price! What they did was awful, but we should stop and ask ourselves a question; What if the Almighty applied the standard of unforgiveness or selective fogiveness to us? We are supposed to be a reflection of God's love here on earth, including most importantly, the principle of forgiveness! God bless you all!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Tuesday, July 24, 2007

They need to leave God's people alone. God says "Touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm. God blesses His people. God blessed Abraham As far as his eye could see. He blessed David above any thing he could think are ask. He was a man after God's on heart. If you do the will of God you will be blessed.
Diann Wilson
Dallas, Texas

posted by diannsfam  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

Yes...Good for him. It is about time the church starts fighting back. God called us to forgive and I am sure Fred Price has or is in the process of forgiving ABC. Even though we are Christians that does not mean we don't live by the worlds rules and laws. God didnt call us to stupidty but to be a light in the dark world. We can not continue to let the world run over us. Dr Price did what he felt was right. God will always get the glory out of everything.

posted by sold_out4HIM  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

Please do not misunderstand me; I am not trying to bash Dr. Price! I just want to remind us that as Christians we have a higher standard than the world does. We also have a template called the Holy Bible. The very essence of Christianity lies in forgiveness. Jesus makes it very plain that unless we are able to extend forgiveness, we should not be able to expect forgiveness from the heavenly Father. Forgiveness should not be predicated upon an apology, and it must be given without question by those who call themselves Christians. I am just saying that this is a wonderful opportunity for Dr. Price to demonstrate forgiveness to not only his offenders, but to his followers! Just because the world drags people into court, does not mean we should, especially once they have apologized! How can the world tell the difference between the saved and the unsaved, if we do not demonstrate that difference based upon biblical doctrine? I'll be praying for both parties! Be blessed!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

I have watched and donated to this ministry and they are the examples of true and righteous ministry.I also retired from a media station after watching yellow journalism becoming the mainstay and not the exception.I don't believe it was a mistake and it is civic responsibility to pursue justice for such acts.To be professional with a major market means to be acurate.To not act makes you look guilty.Forgivessness has nothing to do with being sure that your character remains in tact if you are not guilty.To those who believe forgiving is more important than integrity it should be your name and reputation on the line and then you can do as you choose with your free will.I stand with Dr.Price. Kevin

posted by hornofdavid  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

With all due respect I watch Dr.Price almost every Sunday Morning b/4 I head out 2 my church. He is a sincere indivisual who didnt deserve this.This is modern day lynching on Black Ministers, we see it happening 2 Bishop Jakes & lots of other show cast evangels. I pray that Mr Price does put it in his heart 2 forgive.That way is shows a pure example of the love and manifested Power that abides within.Otherwise the enemy may want 2 see consistency in conflict in the media, 2 ruin ppl & shatter their lives.We must pray 4 our leadership in the body of Christ everywhere.The devil isnt happy so hes only gonna try all he can But in the end we as christians will get the victory.

posted by Pocahontas1875  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

As a member of Crenshaw Christian Center (east) and having been a volunteer in ministry with Dr's Fred & Betty Price for CCC, please KNOW that the Price's in no wise hold, or even entertain un-forgiveness towards this media outlet or anyone for that matter. After spending enough years under their direction as my spiritual teachers, it (shouldn't surprise me though, that traditional (Christian) interpretation of life events still quote scriptures that do not reflect the situation at hand, nor those involved. Sad but true. Be wise and practice properly (discerning) the spirits when it comes to end time events like this; especially since Dr's Fred & Betty are the genuine cream of the crop. Also, unless you understand the full mechanics behind moving forward with this law suit (or anything involving another person for that matter), you might want to stay quiet and observe. You might learn something! Why, do you not recognize that by filing a law suit the body of Christ will now have some influence in (secular) media and how they portray our Lord, His proclaimers of the gospel, and even how we as human beings must respect each other with our words? Do you not know that words create? No matter the retraction, there has been a “tarnish” placed on the body by the wicked one! Listen, next time it might be YOU someone is falsely accusing (to the world ) and thus affecting your family, friends, believers, etc. In essence, folks will now be a lot more cautious in story content and research (which used to be a basic fundamental practice). This way, we get to hit them where it hurts .. in the pocket! HURRAY for the Kingdom of God and for my beloved family at CCC.

posted by speakerlistens@yahoo.com  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

I was lead to Jesus Christ to be saved way back in 1983 through the Ever Increasing Faith Ministry TV Broadcast. I used to send tithes to Ever Increasing Faith Ministries while I was unemployed from whatever came through my hands and afterwards I was blessed enough to finish high school and become employed, I never stopped tithing. I never cared what happened to the money once I committed in my heart to send it, it was then and is now what God The Father thinks about my alms before Him and the condition of my heart toward Him. Dr. Price openly admits from time to time that he must give an account to The Lord just as we all do. We should all do what is laid upon our hearts to support and build up the Body of Christ and those who sincerely love our Lord Jesus Christ within this world in which we currently reside. It is so easy to attack or bash that the way to do it is over 90% just simply given to whosoever has conceived in thier hearts to do such an evil deed. But it takes love without always looking to our own understanding to build up or protect others, which is mostly based on our love for The Lord Jesus and obedience to His Word, and then once done makes a way for a mutual respect and Christian love between those involved. Although I have a local pastor now, I have always loved and respected Dr. Fred and Dr. Betty Price and thier family and the Chrenshaw Christian family, which I have always believed I am a part of. I still support Chrenshaw Christian Center to this day and always will and always pray that we all remain blessed in The Lord Jesus Christ. Minister Denise E. Stevens

posted by Being Pampered By God Ministry  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

Go---- Pastor Price!!! Dr Price is one of the greatest examples of excellence and intergrity in ministry of our times. This is not a fly by night ministry who recently began to be integral--- Dr Price and CCC has a proven record on integrity with several decades under their belt.

Unfortunately Dr Price is one of a few pastors or church leaders who can fight back because of his proven character and the transparency of a real ministry with nothing to hide!!!

Far too may times we see news reports of fallen preachers and false ministries who can't fight back because they actually may have something to hide. While Dr Price wasn't the only ministry featured in the 20/20 segment---- the question should be asked---- why haven't the other ministries spoken out??? I think their refusal or failure to take a stand almost validates what was reported!!!

Dr Price is truly a modern day hero of faith!!! His broadcast is one of few ministry broadcast that I watch on both Streaming Faith and network TV---- Go Dr Price!!!

posted by allabouthim  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

I hope that Dr. Price would take this opportunity to show real Christian leadership and accept the sincere apologies already extended to him, and show forgiveness. Remember Matthew 6:14-15 says "For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men thier sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." As Christians, we are to extend forgiveness whether or not it is asked for. As a man of God, and as children of God, we can expect all kinds of attacks from the enemy. We must be careful to adhere to Christian principles when they do! It strengthens us, and inspires others!

posted by Min. Jonathan  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

I deeply sympathize and empathize with the situation faced by Dr. Price and the congregation of Crenshaw Christian Center. I have actually seen the news reports made by 20/20 on ABC as well as the retraction they made when Dr. Price asked them to correct the error.

While I understand the hurt and the pain that comes from this type of situation, I wonder if this is the proper way to respond to the situation. It seems that this would be a perfect opportunity to display forgiveness. Jesus told us that we would be persecuted for His name sake. Paul admonished us in Romans 12:14 to bless those who persecute us.

Should not we as followers of Christ welcome this, since we who are servants are not greater than our master? Should not we walk in a spirit of forgiveness? What happens to our testimony, when unsaved people look at us and wonder how this differs from how celebs react when misrepresentation and slander to character is placed in tabloids?

In any case, I will be praying for all parties involved, including Disney and ABC.

posted by apreachaskid@hotmail.com  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

GOOOD 4 HIM!!! Its about Time the Church Fights Back.

posted by young prophet  @ Monday, July 23, 2007

IT'S ABOUT TIME! The church has been painted as some weak-kneed, stupid and spooky people. Well, that picture is being snatched off the wall! The church as a vibrant, resilient, and strong people is going up. Praise the Lord. The world has done this to us over and over again. Smearing the name of the many people God has sent to the world. Time and time again, these people use men and women of God to attract ratings and then after they have proven successful in their field they want to offer apologies. The damage has already been done. As a Body we forgive those who know and don't know what they are doing. Because I beleive in this case 20/20 knew exactly what they were doing. They are forgiven however, there is a consequence. Thank God for strong men of God like Dr. Fred Price. The Kingdom of God is being established and the world is not ready for what is about to happen. God's people are going to stand up for what rightfully belongs to them. No more sitting by the side and allowing ourselves to be rag dolls to the world. Let's stand up and be the Strong people God has called us to be. Get ready devil, "We are coming in full force!"

posted by Apostle Steven J. Newton Sr.  @ Sunday, July 22, 2007

I applaud Dr. Price for holding the news media responsible for defamation of his character. Oftentimes, the media destroys the character of ministers of the gospel and are not held accountable for doing so. A retraction and apology does not erase the damage that was done to the body of Christ, the congregation and family of Dr. Price. It is my prayer that justice prevails and the media gets a lesson in "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm." They should have been sure what was being portrayed on TV was accurate.

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