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June 29, 2009  Hide Comments (7 comments)  Add Comment  Print Article  E-mail to a Friend
Christians Say Hate Crimes Bill Is Not What You Think
from The Christian Post

Attorney General Eric Holder urged Congress on Thursday to expand federal protections to gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transsexuals, a move conservatives say would criminalize those who simply speak against homosexuality.

Addressing the Senate Judiciary Committee, Holder argued for the passage of the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act, saying "the time is now" to protect communities from violence based on bigotry and prejudice.

Named after a gay man killed in 1998, the bill would add violence against individuals based on sexual orientation, gender, gender identity or disability to the list of federal hate crimes.

Opponents of the bill say expanding the federal hate crime law is unnecessary considering state and local governments already prosecute violent crimes. But Holder argued that there are instances where the federal government needs to come in.

He also insisted that the bill would be used only to prosecute violent acts and not speech.

"It is the person who commits the actual act of violence, who would be subject to this legislation, not the person who is simply expressing an opinion," he said, responding to concerns from clergy and other religious leaders who say they could face prosecution just for expressing their religious views on homosexuality because their teachings could be blamed for inciting violence.

Holder's assertion, however, does not convince Christians that the bill will not lead to an abridgment of free speech.

Dr. Robert A. J. Gagnon, associate professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, points out that the explicit mention of "the free speech or free exercise clauses of, the First Amendment" was removed from the version that was passed by the House in April.

"There is nothing in this bill that explicitly prevents any homosexualist-activist judge, of which there are many, from ruling that calling homosexual acts a grave 'abomination' by appeal to Levitical prohibitions constitutes an inducement to violence," Gagnon states in an article series arguing against the hate crimes legislation.

The Pittsburgh Seminary professor views the bill as "the Trojan horse of an aggressive gay/transgender lobby."

He argues that it offers "to the public the 'sexual orientation' and 'gender identity' law least likely to meet with massive public resistance." And once the horse is within the city walls, then passing other laws on sexual orientation and gender identity will be relatively easy.

Moreover, he contends that placing "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" alongside "race," "color" or "national origin" "ensconces in federal law the principle that homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality are as benign as race, gender, and disability – an aspect of human diversity that must be affirmed and celebrated."

"Those who refuse to go along with this principle then become encoded in law as hateful, discriminatory bigots," he notes.

On that note, Gagnon says the hate crimes bill is not primarily about protecting homosexual and transgendered persons from violence, as they are already protected by existing state laws. Instead, the bill is really a hate-promotion bill, he argues.

"[S]upport for this bill does not mean that you oppose hateful, violent acts against persons who self-identify as homosexuals, transsexuals, and cross-dressers," he says. "Rather, it means that you support stigmatizing, marginalizing, and penalizing people who, lovingly or not, oppose homosexual practice and transgenderism."

Christian groups and religious broadcasters have persistently spoken out and urged followers and listeners to contact their senators to reject the pending hate crimes legislation. A letter signed by more than 60 conservative leaders, including James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins of Family Research Council and Don Wildmon of American Family Association, was reportedly hand-delivered to every member of the Senate last week.

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How can you talk like this when: An amendment to a bill swiftly moving through the US Congress will allow the Obama Administration's Attorney General to classify Americans as domestic terrorists if they are pro-life, pro-gun and anti-big government.

Impeached Florida judge -- now a Democrat Party member of the House of Representatives -- Rep. Alcee Hastings introduced what some claim is a disturbing piece of legislation. Hasting's amendment calls for the Attorney General to have discretion over who is called a terrorist and what groups will be treated as terrorist groups.

"This amendment is part and parcel of the trend in this country to suppress dissent by patriots by calling them domestic terrorists," he added.

In an unclassified report entitled "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic & Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," Secretary for Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and her agency included the following description of "extremists:"

"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

posted by Dutch Lion Frans  @ Sunday, July 05, 2009


Dutch Lion Franz, you need to calm down, seek the Lord in Prayer and examine what you wrote. You are slipping quickly into the ZEALOT category.

posted by debblev  @ Sunday, June 28, 2009


Any Christian that mentions the word 'hatecrime' should repent! Christians should speak another language than the world! Hatecrime is a word invented by the very worst haters of mankind. Yeah, it is invented by the very worst hater of mankind: The DEVIL himself. So do not speak the devil's words any more!

It is LOVE to warn the wicked homosexuals that they will perish if they do not repent of their sin.

No Christian should ever accept the lies of the wicked that homosexuals are born homosexuals. Every ex-homosexual is a testimony that this is a lie! That is why homosexuals hate ex-homosexuals so much! This is a hatred that can be felt as the deepest hatred and darkness! And these hatefull people are condemning Christians of hate-speech. That is satan all over!

Isaiah 5:20 says: "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" This is a picture of our present-day government! It even legislates evil as good, and prosecutes the righteous for doing what théy call evil, but what God calls good! We should obey God rather than men! Face death by a wicked government if necessary for doing what is good in God's sight!


posted by Dutch Lion Frans  @ Friday, June 26, 2009


So, let us, Christians, not get sidetracked by these wicked ones. And let us not try to focus on taking over politically. And let us not allow the devil to trick us into activism in a worldly way!

2 Corinthians 10: 3-6 says: "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled. "

This is how we must battle! This is how the church should also battle corporately! We dance far too often to the tunes of the world.

Any Christian that mentions the word 'hatecrime' should repent! Christians should speak another language than the world! Hatecrime is a word invented by the very worst haters of mankind. Yeah, it is invented by the very worst hater of mankind: The DEVIL himself. So do not speak the devil's words any more!

It is LOVE to warn the wicked homosexuals that they will perish if they do not repent of their sin.


posted by Dutch Lion Frans  @ Friday, June 26, 2009


Actually: It is becoming like the days of Noah! When God had to destroy all living souls because their wickedness was so great: "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." (Gen.6: 5-7)

The total annihalation of all mankind was an act of love and grace of God. Though arrogant mankind make Him to look like a montser because of this.

God never intended death to have any place in our existance. But when sin entered, so did death! Because if death had not, sin would have been eterenal!

Oh, the great wisdom and care of God!

So, now we see that the wickedness of mankind is becoming like in the days of Noah! And there is no good in people left any more...this is what apostle Paul calls "The MYSTERY of INIQUITY!"

So, once again, God has no choice but to finish them all.

This time, however, He will not do it by a flood. This time, He will remove His own by coming for them, and even removing His Holy Spirit from the earth, leaving the wicked to their own devices - the Great Tribulation! Then after the 7 years appointed for this event, He will come back to take over: The Millenium of Christ's rule on the earth!

posted by Dutch Lion Frans  @ Friday, June 26, 2009


Our authorities are increasingly becoming the very worst tyrants! They have no clue any more what laws are for. They abuse their authority to force Christians into théir State-religion of Political-Correctism which denies people the freedoms God gave, and forces them to believe, to think, and to act according to their ungodly MARXIST doctrine that even denies Creation and the Creator!

Scripture says: "But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine." (1 Tim.1: 8-10)

Obviously these judges and other authorities do NOT use the law lawfully, and neither their authority legislate or to judge or to enforce; well here you have all 3 branches of government: Legislative, Judicial and Executive. All are increasingly becomeing governed and manned by devils!

The land of the Free, has become the land of the worst TYRANNY!

Soon, nothing is left to free men - if any are left - but a REVOLT against the very worst TYRANNY mankind has ever known!

posted by Dutch Lion Frans  @ Friday, June 26, 2009


Hate speech should be a crime, but it isn't and this bill would NOT make it one! This nation was not founded as a Christian nation...no matter what many Christians think. I am a Christian but I am so tired of hearing the extreme right-wingers present their views as that of All Christians. Christ taught love of your fellow man, Not hate. We should love each other as Christ first loved us and teach that to our children and families and by example to our communities and our nation!!!!


posted by debblev  @ Thursday, June 25, 2009

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